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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
	Kamalesh Babulal <kamalesh@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>,
	Nikhil Rao <ncrao@google.com>
Subject: Re: [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 5/7] sched: add exports tracking cfs bandwidth control statistics
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:54:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1298624064.2428.1311.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinqp_gfhoLGe0_ShbahzHBLeMZoho46_aMAe17k@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 19:26 -0800, Paul Turner wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 19:18 -0800, Paul Turner wrote:
> >> +       raw_spin_lock(&cfs_b->lock);
> >> +       cfs_b->throttled_time += (rq->clock - cfs_rq->throttled_timestamp);
> >> +       raw_spin_unlock(&cfs_b->lock);
> >
> > That seems to put the cost of things on the wrong side. Read is rare,
> > update is frequent, and you made the frequent thing the most expensive
> > one.
> 
> Hum.. the trade-off here is non-trivial I think
> 
> - This update is only once per-quota period (*if* we throttled within
> that period).  This places the frequency in the 10s-100s of ms range.
> - Sampling would probably occur on an order of once a second (assuming
> some enterprise management system that cares about these statistics).

Ugh,. people are really polling state like that? If the event is rare
pushing state is much saner.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-25  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-16  3:18 [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 0/7] Introduction Paul Turner
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 1/7] sched: introduce primitives to account for CFS bandwidth tracking Paul Turner
2011-02-16 16:52   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-17  2:54     ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25  3:11     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25 20:53     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 2/7] sched: accumulate per-cfs_rq cpu usage Paul Turner
2011-02-16 17:45   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25  3:33     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25 12:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 3/7] sched: throttle cfs_rq entities which exceed their local quota Paul Turner
2011-02-18  6:52   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-24  5:21     ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-24 11:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-24 15:45         ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-24 15:52           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-24 16:39             ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-24 17:20               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25  3:59                 ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25  3:41         ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25  3:10     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25 13:58       ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-25 20:51         ` Paul Turner
2011-02-28  3:50           ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-28  6:38             ` Paul Turner
2011-02-28 13:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-01  8:31         ` Paul Turner
2011-03-02  7:23   ` Bharata B Rao
2011-03-02  8:05     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 4/7] sched: unthrottle cfs_rq(s) who ran out of quota at period refresh Paul Turner
2011-02-18  7:19   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-18  8:10     ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-23 12:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-24  7:04     ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-24 11:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-26  0:02     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 5/7] sched: add exports tracking cfs bandwidth control statistics Paul Turner
2011-02-22  3:14   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-22  4:13     ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-22  4:40       ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23  8:03         ` Paul Turner
2011-02-23 10:13           ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25  3:26     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25  8:54       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 6/7] sched: hierarchical task accounting for SCHED_OTHER Paul Turner
2011-02-22  3:17   ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23  8:05     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-23  2:02   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2011-02-23  2:20     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-23  2:43     ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25  3:25     ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25 12:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-16  3:18 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 7/7] sched: add documentation for bandwidth control Paul Turner
2011-02-21  2:47 ` [CFS Bandwidth Control v4 0/7] Introduction Xiao Guangrong
2011-02-22 10:28   ` Bharata B Rao
2011-02-23  7:42   ` Paul Turner
2011-02-23  7:51     ` Balbir Singh
2011-02-23  7:56       ` Paul Turner
2011-02-23  8:31         ` Bharata B Rao
     [not found] ` <20110224161111.7d83a884@jacob-laptop>
2011-02-25 10:03   ` Paul Turner
2011-02-25 13:06     ` jacob pan
2011-03-08  3:57       ` Balbir Singh
2011-03-08 18:18         ` Jacob Pan
2011-03-09 10:12       ` Paul Turner
2011-03-09 21:57         ` jacob pan

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