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From: "Garg, Shivank" <shivankg@amd.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Accelerate page migration with batch copying and hardware offload
Date: Wed, 20 May 2026 20:53:40 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1302e988-df0c-48fc-952b-71e3af230659@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a4u5weyo.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA>



On 5/12/2026 7:45 AM, Huang, Ying wrote:
> "Garg, Shivank" <shivankg@amd.com> writes:
> 
>> On 5/9/2026 1:19 PM, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>> "Garg, Shivank" <shivankg@amd.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 5/8/2026 4:58 PM, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>>>> Hi, Shivank,
>>>>>
>>>>> "Garg, Shivank" <shivankg@amd.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/30/2026 2:17 PM, Huang, Ying wrote:
>>>>>>> Shivank Garg <shivankg@amd.com> writes:
>>>>>>


>> Thanks. Below tables sweep NR_MAX_BATCHED_MIGRATION from 512 up to 262144. On 2M folios,
>> 16-channel PTDMA, the knee is at N=8192-16384 (= {16 to 32} * 512 ).
>>
>>>>>>   8192         12.56 |   2424        26.57 |   1118        58.72 |    470 *
> 
>         2048         12.30 |    613        25.47 |    290        25.48 |    291
> 
> IIUC, N=2048 already helps dma4.  And, the latency looks OK too.  The
> good batch size is hardware configuration dependent too?  If so, we may
> need to add another migrator callback for that.

Yeah, right. 

>> One thing worth flagging on the "bounded default": at the upstream cap of 512 pages,
>> migrate_pages_batch() receives at most one 2M folio per call, so PTDMA can only use
>> one of its 16 channels per batch and the offload reduces to vanilla. (DCBM offloads
>> one 2M folio to each channel).
>> The larger-N rows are what exercise the channel parallelism for PTDMA case.
>>
>> "SDXI"[1] like memory-to-memory data movers should reach good throughput with just 1 channel, 
>> and thus may not require increasing the NR_MAX_BATCHED_MIGRATION for good throughput.
>>
>> I'm not tying series this to specific perf default for now, the design review (batch-copy
>> path, migrator interface, registration, static_call dispatch) is the part I'd like to converge
>> on first, then tune the threshold after it. Does that ordering work?
> 
> IMHO, we need some performance data to justify the added complexity.
> So, threshold tuning isn't the goal, whether we can get better
> throughput with some bounded latency is.
> 

Fair point. 

As you pointed PTDMA-4chan gives both tput and inaccessible time improvement.
PTDMA 16-chan could be preferred by some who value throuhgput more.
And this is different for different hardware. So, I think another callback for
this sounds like good idea.

Thanks,
Shivank




  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-20 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-28 15:50 [PATCH 0/7] Accelerate page migration with batch copying and hardware offload Shivank Garg
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 1/7] mm/migrate: rename PAGE_ migration flags to FOLIO_ Shivank Garg
2026-04-30  9:07   ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-18 16:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-05-18 23:51     ` Zi Yan
2026-06-09  5:34   ` Dev Jain
2026-06-09  6:17     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09  6:23       ` Dev Jain
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 2/7] mm/migrate: use migrate_info field instead of private Shivank Garg
2026-05-07  9:43   ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:22   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-18 16:56   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 3/7] mm/migrate: skip data copy for already-copied folios Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:35   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:21     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 11:26       ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 15:18         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:41           ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 15:43             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 19:32               ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09 12:55                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:09       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 4/7] mm/migrate: add batch-copy path in migrate_pages_batch Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:40   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:06     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 15:25       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-08 15:36         ` Zi Yan
2026-06-08 20:40           ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-08 21:17             ` Karim Manaouil
2026-05-21 13:20   ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm/migrate: add copy offload registration infrastructure Shivank Garg
2026-05-11 15:46   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:24     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-11 15:50   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-20 15:22     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-25  2:16       ` David Rientjes
2026-05-25  2:19         ` David Rientjes
2026-06-11  9:55         ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-11 18:44           ` Zi Yan
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 6/7] drivers/migrate_offload: add DMA batch copy driver (dcbm) Shivank Garg
2026-06-09  0:00   ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-09  7:31     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-06-09 16:17       ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-10 12:26         ` Shivank Garg
2026-06-19 16:07   ` [PATCH 6/7] drivers/migrate_offload: add DMA batch copy driver (dcbm) Karim Manaouil
2026-06-19 16:32     ` Karim Manaouil
2026-06-22 10:03     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 15:50 ` [PATCH 7/7] mm/migrate: adjust NR_MAX_BATCHED_MIGRATION for testing Shivank Garg
2026-04-28 17:11 ` [PATCH 0/7] Accelerate page migration with batch copying and hardware offload Garg, Shivank
2026-04-28 19:33   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-29  5:51     ` Garg, Shivank
2026-04-30  8:47 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-08 11:04   ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-08 11:28     ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-08 12:34       ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-09  7:49         ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-10 15:03           ` Garg, Shivank
2026-05-12  2:15             ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-20 15:23               ` Garg, Shivank [this message]
2026-05-07  9:58 ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:19   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12  1:45     ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-11 15:53 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-12  2:35   ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-12  6:34     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-14  6:42       ` Huang, Ying
2026-05-20 15:35   ` Garg, Shivank

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