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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: "Roedel, Joerg" <Joerg.Roedel@amd.com>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] perf, core: Introduce attrs to count in either host or guest mode
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 18:07:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305043638.2914.113.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110510153855.GE30996@amd.com>

On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 17:38 +0200, Roedel, Joerg wrote:
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:18:29AM -0400, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 16:59 +0200, Roedel, Joerg wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:45:46AM -0400, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 16:35 +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > > > > +       /* Can't exclude counting in guest and in host mode */
> > > > > +       if (attr.exclude_host && attr.exclude_guest)
> > > > > +               return -EINVAL;
> > > > 
> > > > Why not?
> > > 
> > > By definition the counter won't count at all. The hardware just ignores
> > > the bits if they are both set. My rationale here was that it does not
> > > makes sense to setup a counter and exclude guest and host mode.
> > 
> > I would expect it to 'work' but simply return 0. If that isn't what the
> > AMD hardware does you need to fix that in the AMD driver.
> 
> By 'work' you mean that userspace can set it up but it doesn't count at
> all in this situation? 

Right.

> This would certainly be consistent behavior but I
> can't imagine any use-case for it so that this code assumes that such a
> situation is most likely a bug.
> I can certainly change that if wanted, but I think its better to inform
> userspace if we get weird values?

The eternal how much rope to give and what knots to teach argument I
guess. As it is, I think we allow people to exclude both user- and
kernel-space, giving a similar situation, so allowing to exclude both
host and guest is consistent.


  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-10 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-10 14:35 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] perf support for amd guest/host-only bits Joerg Roedel
2011-05-10 14:35 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf, core: Introduce attrs to count in either host or guest mode Joerg Roedel
2011-05-10 14:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 14:59     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-10 15:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 15:38         ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-10 16:07           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-05-10 16:25             ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-11 11:44   ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 11:45     ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 13:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-11 13:52         ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-11 14:02           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10 14:35 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf, x86: Use GO/HO bits in perf-ctr Joerg Roedel
2011-05-10 14:48   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 15:04     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-11 12:58       ` Avi Kivity
2011-05-12  9:21         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-05-10 14:35 ` [PATCH 3/3] perf, tools: Add support for guest/host-only profiling Joerg Roedel
2011-05-10 14:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 15:08     ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-10 15:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 15:46         ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-10 16:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-10 15:21 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] perf support for amd guest/host-only bits Ingo Molnar
2011-05-10 15:50   ` Roedel, Joerg
2011-05-10 20:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-11  8:57       ` Joerg Roedel

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