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From: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"cl@linux.com" <cl@linux.com>,
	"npiggin@kernel.dk" <npiggin@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 15:33:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305272037.2375.0.camel@sli10-conroe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305268456.2831.38.camel@edumazet-laptop>

On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 14:34 +0800, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Le vendredi 13 mai 2011 à 13:28 +0800, Shaohua Li a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 01:20:06PM +0800, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > > Le vendredi 13 mai 2011 à 12:37 +0800, Shaohua Li a écrit :
> > > > On Thu, 2011-05-12 at 17:05 +0800, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:02:15AM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> > > > > > > I don't think @maxfuzzy is necessary there.  I wrote this before but
> > > > > > > why can't we track the actual deviation instead of the number of
> > > > > > > deviation events?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thats roughly same thing (BATCH multiplicator factor apart)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Most percpu_counter users for a given percpu_counter object use a given
> > > > > > BATCH, dont they ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, @maxfuzzy is much harder than @batch.  It's way less intuitive.
> > > > > Although I haven't really thought about it that much, I think it might
> > > > > be possible to eliminate it.  Maybe I'm confused.  I'll take another
> > > > > look later but if someone can think of something, please jump right
> > > > > in.
> > > > Hmm, looks Eric's approach doesn't work. because we want to remove lock
> > > > in _add, checking seq in _sum still races with _add.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Why ?
> > > 
> > > I'll code a patch, I believe it should work.
> > I thought your proposal is:
> > in _add
> > {
> > 	if (count >= batch || count <= -batch) {
> > 		fbc->seq_count++;
> >                atomic64_add(count, &fbc->count);
> > -------->
> >                 __this_cpu_write(*fbc->counters, 0);
> > 	}
> > }
> > 
> > in _sum
> > {
> > restart:
> > 	oldseq = fbc->seqcount;
> > 	smp_rmb();
> > 	do_sum();
> > 	smp_rmb()
> > 	newseq = fbc->seqcount;
> > 	if (newseq - oldseq >= maxfuzzy)
> > 		goto restart;
> > 	return ret;
> > } 
> > if _sum run between above line marked in _add, then the seqcount check
> > doesn't work, we still have deviation Tejun pointed out.
> > 
> 
> I see the point thanks, I'll think a bit more about it.
> 
> We currently serializes both _sum() and _add() with a spinlock.
> 
> My idea was OK if we still kept spinlock in _add(), but this obviously
> is not the need.
> 
> Your goal is letting _add() run without spinlock, but can we agree
> _sum() can run with a spinlock() like today [no more than one instance
> of _sum() running per percpu_counter] ?
locking _sum should be fine



  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-13  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-11  8:10 [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 1/5] percpu_counter: fix code for 32bit systems for UP Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 2/5] lglock: convert it to work with dynamically allocated structure Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 3/5] percpu_counter: use lglock to protect percpu data Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 4/5] percpu_counter: use atomic64 for counter in SMP Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  9:34   ` Andrew Morton
2011-05-12  2:40     ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  8:10 ` [patch v2 5/5] percpu_counter: preemptless __per_cpu_counter_add Shaohua Li
2011-05-11  9:28 ` [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Tejun Heo
2011-05-12  2:48   ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12  8:21     ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12  8:55       ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12  8:59         ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-12  9:02           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12  9:03             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-12  9:05             ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-13  3:09               ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13  4:37               ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13  5:20                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13  5:28                   ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-13  6:34                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13  7:33                       ` Shaohua Li [this message]
2011-05-13 14:51                       ` [patch] percpu_counter: scalability works Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 15:39                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 16:35                           ` [patch V2] " Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 16:46                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-13 22:03                               ` [patch V3] " Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  0:58                                 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  6:11                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  6:37                                     ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  6:55                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  7:15                                         ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  7:44                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16  8:34                                             ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-16  9:35                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-16 14:22                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  0:55                                                   ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-17  4:56                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  5:22                                                       ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-17  9:01                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  9:11                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17  9:45                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17  9:50                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 12:20                                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 12:45                                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 13:00                                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-05-17 13:04                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 13:55                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-17 14:02                                                                           ` Tejun Heo
2011-05-17 14:38                                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-18  1:00                                                                 ` Shaohua Li
2011-05-12 14:38   ` [patch v2 0/5] percpu_counter: bug fix and enhancement Christoph Lameter

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