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From: Shirley Ma <mashirle@us.ibm.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michał Mirosław" <mirqus@gmail.com>,
	"Ben Hutchings" <bhutchings@solarflare.com>,
	"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	"Avi Kivity" <avi@redhat.com>, "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 2/6 net-next] netdevice.h: Add zero-copy flag in netdevice
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 15:49:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1306363780.26270.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110519234154.GA13784@redhat.com>

On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 02:41 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> So the requirements are
> - data must be released in a timely fashion (e.g. unlike virtio-net
>   tun or bridge)
The current patch doesn't enable tun zero-copy. tun will copy data It's
not an issue now. We can disallow macvtap attach to bridge when
zero-copy is enabled.

> - SG support
> - HIGHDMA support (on arches where this makes sense)

This can be checked by device flags.

> - no filtering based on data (data is mapped in guest)

> - on fast path no calls to skb_copy, skb_clone, pskb_copy,
>   pskb_expand_head as these are slow

Any calls to skb_copy, skb_clone, pskb_copy, pskb_expand_head will do a
copy. The performance should be the same as none zero-copy case before.
I have done/tested the patch V6, will send it out for review tomorrow.

I am looking at where there are some cases, skb remains the same for
filtering.

> First 2 requirements are a must, all other requirements
> are just dependencies to make sure zero copy will be faster
> than non zero copy.
> Using a new feature bit is probably the simplest approach to
> this. macvtap on top of most physical NICs most likely works
> correctly so it seems a bit more work than it needs to be,
> but it's also the safest one I think ... 

For "macvtap/vhost zero-copy" we can use SG & HIGHDMA to enable it, it
looks safe to me once patching skb_copy, skb_clone, pskb_copy,
pskb_expand_head.

To extend zero-copy in other usages, we can have a new feature bit
later.

Is that reasonable?

Thanks
Shirley





  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-25 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-16 19:28 [PATCH V5 2/6 net-next] netdevice.h: Add zero-copy flag in netdevice Shirley Ma
2011-05-16 19:35 ` Ben Hutchings
2011-05-16 19:38   ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-16 19:47     ` Ben Hutchings
2011-05-16 21:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-16 23:32         ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17  6:21           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-17 20:53             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17 21:48           ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-17 22:28             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-17 22:58               ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-17 23:44                 ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18  9:06                   ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 10:38               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:10                 ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:17                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:40                     ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:47                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 14:38                       ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 15:47                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:07                           ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:36                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:45                               ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:51                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 17:00                                   ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-19 19:42                                     ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-19 23:41                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-25 22:49                                         ` Shirley Ma [this message]
2011-05-26  8:49                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-26 15:27                                             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-26 19:11                                             ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:02                         ` Shirley Ma
2011-05-18 16:23                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 16:50                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 11:47                     ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 11:56                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2011-05-18 12:48                         ` Michał Mirosław
2011-05-18 13:19                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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