From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Remy Bohmer <linux@bohmer.net>
Cc: Armin Steinhoff <armin@steinhoff.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Johannes Bauer <hannes_bauer@aon.at>,
Monica Puig-Pey <puigpeym@unican.es>,
Rolando Martins <rolando.martins@gmail.com>,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Changing Kernel thread priorities
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 16:14:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1307456080.2322.264.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=KPyds_BWYpXHeUkAg000FGSuJOQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 13:02 +0200, Remy Bohmer wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> 2011/6/7 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>:
> > On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 11:40 +0200, Armin Steinhoff wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> when I read all these confusing statements here ( in german it looks
> >> like an "Eiertanz") ... I can only say:
> >>
> >> - do the basic stuff in a minimal kernel driver
> >> - use UIO (or VFIO for PCI devices)
> >
> > I see no requirement for any of those horrid things to be used. You can
> > write a full on proper kernel driver, it just cannot set kernel thread
> > priorities to a sane value (let them all default to 50 or so).
> >
> > Then have a user space script or whatever set the kthread priorities.
> >> and you get clean control about your real-time priorities.
> >> I think changing the priorities of "interrupt threads" inside the kernel
> >> could lead to strange race conditions in the kernel.
>
> Well, I 100% agree that it must be under full userspace control to be
> able to set the priorities. But, the kernel default assumption of
> starting everything at 50 is wrong as well.
> Imagine the following situation:
> * Realtime application is running and has threads active in the range
> of prios 20 - 90.
> * Now bring up a network device, it immediately starts spamming the
> system at prio 50 _before_ you have the chance to set it below 20 by
> means of chrt.
> * RT behaviour is gone!
Good point I guess, Thomas should we default to 1 for everything?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-07 14:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-07 8:27 Changing Kernel thread priorities Johannes Bauer
2011-06-07 8:27 ` Johannes Bauer
2011-06-07 8:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-07 9:40 ` Armin Steinhoff
2011-06-07 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-07 11:02 ` Remy Bohmer
2011-06-07 11:02 ` Remy Bohmer
2011-06-07 14:14 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-06-07 14:57 ` Lucas De Marchi
2011-06-07 15:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-07 23:38 ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2011-06-07 23:35 ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2011-06-08 17:50 ` Remy Bohmer
2011-06-08 19:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-10 14:04 ` Remy Bohmer
2011-06-10 15:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-06-11 17:16 ` Remy Bohmer
2011-06-09 11:19 ` Nicholas Mc Guire
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[not found] ` <17185480.5304.1307435255996.JavaMail.root@WARSBL214.highway.te lekom.at>
2011-06-07 8:32 ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-07 8:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-06 12:10 Johannes Bauer
2011-06-06 12:10 ` Johannes Bauer
2011-06-06 22:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-04 11:48 One Interrupted Threads per Interrupt line? Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-04 12:03 ` I/O operations priority in RTOS Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-04 12:30 ` kernel threads in drivers using the RT patch Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-06 11:47 ` Changing Kernel thread priorities Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-06 11:54 ` Rolando Martins
2011-06-06 11:54 ` Rolando Martins
2011-06-06 11:58 ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-06 11:58 ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-06 16:49 ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-06 16:49 ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-07 8:40 ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-07 8:40 ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-07 9:14 ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-07 9:14 ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-07 9:46 ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-07 9:46 ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-07 18:34 ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-07 18:55 ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-07 18:55 ` Mark Hounschell
2011-06-10 10:12 ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-10 10:12 ` Monica Puig-Pey
2011-06-06 18:20 ` Armin Steinhoff
2011-06-06 18:20 ` Armin Steinhoff
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