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From: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@intel.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Smack: SMACK_IOCLOADACCESS
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 13:36:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1314380186.25778.30.camel@moss-pluto> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110826141410.3d639231@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 14:14 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > good in that it only takes 1 syscall and ours takes 2.  Your interface
> > is bad in that it is ioctl and we are told since birth that we must
> > hate them no matter what (not that read/write is really any
> > different).  It isn't the same method the only other LSM I know about
> > uses.  It can only every return one value (ok, I know ioctl can be
> > made to do anything at all)
> 
> I'm all in favour of the use of brains rather than the cult of ioctl
> hating. You can design bad ioctls and good ones. Also ioctl is pretty
> much unique in being bidirectional, it allows a query/respose action
> without having to worry about whether the respose is the one to your
> query or another parallel query.

The transaction ops achieve that property as well - the response is
stored in an open file private buffer and thus can only correspond to a
request written to that same open file instance.

-- 
Stephen Smalley
National Security Agency


  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-26 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-26  5:52 [PATCH] Smack: SMACK_IOCLOADACCESS Jarkko Sakkinen
2011-08-26 12:50 ` Eric Paris
2011-08-26 13:14   ` Alan Cox
2011-08-26 17:36     ` Stephen Smalley [this message]
2011-08-26 16:05   ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2011-08-26 17:01     ` Eric Paris
2011-08-26 21:59       ` Casey Schaufler
2011-08-27  0:16         ` Eric Paris
2011-08-27  5:57       ` Sakkinen, Jarkko
2011-08-26 16:26   ` Casey Schaufler
2011-08-26 17:28     ` Stephen Smalley
2011-08-26 21:47       ` Casey Schaufler
2011-08-26 17:26 ` Randy Dunlap

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