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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	arve@android.com, markgross@thegnar.org,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	amit.kucheria@linaro.org, farrowg@sg.ibm.com,
	"Dmitry Fink (Palm GBU)" <Dmitry.Fink@palm.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, khilman@ti.com,
	Magnus Damm <damm@opensource.se>,
	mjg@redhat.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] Proposal for optimistic suspend idea.
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:02:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1317196975.5781.15.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110928075752.GA6670@netboy.at.omicron.at>

On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 09:57 +0200, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 09:51:45AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > SCHED_FIFO is an utter trainwreck, you're talking to the guy who gave a
> > conference talk on why SCHED_FIFO sucks.
> 
> That sounds interesting. Do you have a link to the paper and/or
> presentation?

Not really, I'm also the guy who doesn't write papers and has minimal
slides (and has lost those he had).

But the gist is that SCHED_FIFO doesn't provide proper resource control:
its possible to overload the system, nor does it provide proper resource
isolation: (like already stated) its impossible to fold two properly
working RT systems onto one machine and still have them work correctly
(even when the combined utilization < 1).

  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-28  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-26 19:13 [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] Proposal for optimistic suspend idea John Stultz
2011-09-26 19:13 ` [PATCH 1/6] [RFC] suspend: Block suspend when wakeups are in-progress John Stultz
2011-09-26 19:13 ` [PATCH 2/6] [RFC] sched: Add support for SCHED_STAYAWAKE flag John Stultz
2011-09-26 19:13 ` [PATCH 3/6] [RFC] rtc: rtc-cmos: Add pm_stay_awake/pm_relax calls around IRQ John Stultz
2011-10-01 21:31   ` NeilBrown
2011-09-26 19:13 ` [PATCH 4/6] [RFC] rtc: interface: Add pm_stay_awake/pm_relax chaining rtc workqueue processing John Stultz
2011-09-26 19:13 ` [PATCH 5/6] [RFC] alarmtimer: Add pm_stay_awake /pm_relax calls John Stultz
2011-09-26 19:13 ` [PATCH 6/6] [RFC] alarmtimer: Deboost on nanosleep John Stultz
2011-09-26 20:16 ` [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] Proposal for optimistic suspend idea Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-26 22:27   ` John Stultz
2011-09-27 10:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-27 22:56       ` John Stultz
2011-09-28  7:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-28  7:57           ` Richard Cochran
2011-09-28  8:02             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2011-09-28  8:19         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29  3:07           ` John Stultz
2011-09-28  8:19         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29  3:27           ` John Stultz
2011-09-28  8:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-28  8:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-29  3:45           ` John Stultz
2011-09-28  9:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-09-28 10:45           ` Borislav Petkov
2011-09-28 21:02         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-09-28  0:09     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-09-28  1:19       ` John Stultz
2011-09-28  8:18         ` Thomas Gleixner

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