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From: Shuah Khan <shuahkhan@gmail.com>
To: Jonas Bonn <jonas@southpole.se>
Cc: shuahkhan@gmail.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	neilb@suse.de, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH ] leds: add new transient trigger for one shot timer support
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:51:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1335138687.2882.20.camel@lorien2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1334983269.2435.90.camel@jerome.southpole.se>

Hi Jonas,

activate does sound better and having units in the property name is a
good idea. Will make the changes including the 0200 change for activate.
Will change the transient_time to transient_time_msec (no problem using
duration, just that time is shorter :)

> A couple of questions:
> 
> i)  Why is it important for you to maintain the LED state?
One use-case that would be easier for user to comprehend would be to
have a constant timer that runs periodically. time value doesn't change
and by simply writing 1 or 0, timer with a value specified by the time
file can be started. The following use-case is a good example for what I
am talking about:

echo transient > trigger
echo n > transient_time
repeat the following step as needed:
echo 1 > transient_enabled - start timer = transient_time to run once
echo 1 > transient_enabled - start timer = transient_time to run once
echo none > trigger

This could be accomplished by simply using just the time property,
however, each time, the same timer value needs to be echoed. Not a big
deal, however time value either needs to stay where it is even when a
timer is not running, or clear it 0. I don't like clearing the time
value. Here is why. The use-case is very similar to a stop and start
timer function on a watch for example. I typically set a time
value and then activate and deactivate as needed without needing to
reset the time value.

> 
> ii)  Why do you need to be able to cancel the timer?
Here is an example where canceling timer is necessary. Phone is in
silent mode and a call comes in. When call comes in phone will start
vibrating (maybe vibrate mode set for 2 seconds), when caller answers,
vibrate mode needs to deactivated right away by stopping the vibrate
mode and canceling the timer.
> 
> As I understand this trigger (and your use-case), this is about being
> able to turn on a LED (signal) and forget about it, knowing that it will
> be extinguished in due time without any intervention.  So I would leave
> it at that; don't even present an option to intervene.
> 
> That said, there is already a way to intervene:  I can always write 0 to
> 'brightness' to extinguish the led immediately.

That is correct. brightness could be used, however having a distinct
name-space might be better for future changes instead of overloading
brightness.

Hope this helps explain my reasoning to keep transient state.

Thanks,
-- Shuah


  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-22 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-01 19:53 [PATCH RESEND] LEDS-One-Shot-Timer-Trigger-implementation Shuah Khan
2012-04-03 15:06 ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-06 23:53 ` Andrew Morton
2012-04-07 14:13   ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-07 21:56     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-04-08 23:42       ` NeilBrown
2012-04-09  0:06         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-04-09 22:25           ` NeilBrown
2012-04-10  8:21             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-04-09 16:55       ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-09 17:37         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-04-09 18:16           ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-09 18:45             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-04-09 20:20               ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-09 20:42                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-04-09 22:40                   ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-10  7:17                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2012-04-10 18:34                       ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-08 23:58   ` NeilBrown
2012-04-10 13:24 ` Richard Purdie
2012-04-10 15:31   ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-11 10:05     ` Richard Purdie
2012-04-11 15:33       ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-15 16:35   ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-15 22:34     ` [PATCH 1/1] leds: add "kickable" LED trigger Jonas Bonn
2012-04-15 22:37       ` Jonas Bonn
2012-04-16 15:28         ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-16 22:33           ` Jonas Bonn
2012-04-16 23:05             ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-20  4:04     ` [PATCH ] leds: add new transient trigger for one shot timer support Shuah Khan
2012-04-20 21:19       ` Andrew Morton
2012-04-20 22:48         ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-21  4:41       ` Jonas Bonn
2012-04-22 23:51         ` Shuah Khan [this message]
2012-04-23  1:56           ` NeilBrown
2012-04-23  5:29             ` Jonas Bonn
2012-04-23  5:45               ` NeilBrown
2012-04-23 22:22                 ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-25 17:42                   ` [PATCH v2] leds: add new transient trigger for one shot timer activation Shuah Khan
2012-04-26  6:02                     ` NeilBrown
2012-04-26 14:48                       ` Shuah Khan
2012-04-26 23:00                     ` Andrew Morton
2012-04-30 20:33                       ` [PATCH v3] " Shuah Khan
2012-04-23  5:07           ` [PATCH ] leds: add new transient trigger for one shot timer support Jonas Bonn

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