From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
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"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
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Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <thebigcorporation@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/26] rcu: Exit RCU extended QS on user preemption
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 19:13:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1346951591.18408.48.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1346950959.18408.47.camel@twins>
On Thu, 2012-09-06 at 19:02 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-08-30 at 14:05 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> >
> > When exceptions or irq are about to resume userspace, if
> > the task needs to be rescheduled, the arch low level code
> > calls schedule() directly.
> >
> > At that time we may be in extended quiescent state from RCU
> > POV: the exception is not anymore protected inside
> > rcu_user_exit() - rcu_user_enter() and the irq has called
> > rcu_irq_exit() already.
> >
> > Create a new API schedule_user() that calls schedule() inside
> > rcu_user_exit()-rcu_user_enter() in order to protect it. Archs
> > will need to rely on it now to implement user preemption safely.
>
> > ---
> > kernel/sched/core.c | 7 +++++++
> > 1 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > index 0bd599b..e841dfc 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > @@ -3463,6 +3463,13 @@ asmlinkage void __sched schedule(void)
> > }
> > EXPORT_SYMBOL(schedule);
> >
> > +asmlinkage void __sched schedule_user(void)
> > +{
> > + rcu_user_exit();
> > + schedule();
> > + rcu_user_enter();
> > +}
>
>
> OK, so colour me unconvinced.. why are we doing this?
>
> Typically when we call schedule nr_running != 1 (we need current to be
> running and a possible target to switch to).
>
> So I'd prefer to simply have schedule() disable all this adaptive tick
> nonsense and leave it at that.
In fact, the only way to get here is through ttwu(), which would have
done the nr_running increment and should have disabled all this adaptive
stuff.
So again,.. why?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-06 17:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-30 21:05 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/26] idle-related changes Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/26] rcu: New rcu_user_enter() and rcu_user_exit() APIs Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/26] rcu: New rcu_user_enter_irq() and rcu_user_exit_irq() APIs Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 19:13 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-31 19:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-08-31 21:38 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/26] rcu: Make RCU_FAST_NO_HZ handle adaptive ticks Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:40 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/26] rcu: Settle config for userspace extended quiescent state Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:44 ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-05 0:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-05 0:46 ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-10 21:35 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/26] rcu: Allow rcu_user_enter()/exit() to nest Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:45 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/26] rcu: Ignore userspace extended quiescent state by default Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:46 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/26] rcu: Switch task's syscall hooks on context switch Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:48 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/26] x86: Syscall hooks for userspace RCU extended QS Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:59 ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-10 21:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/26] x86: Exception " Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:51 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/26] rcu: Exit RCU extended QS on kernel preemption after irq/exception Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:51 ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 16:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-10 20:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/26] rcu: Exit RCU extended QS on user preemption Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:52 ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 17:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 17:13 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2012-09-10 20:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-12 9:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-12 12:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-12 12:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-12 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-12 13:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-12 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-12 13:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-09-12 15:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/26] x86: Use the new schedule_user API on userspace preemption Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:53 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/26] x86: Exit RCU extended QS on notify resume Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:54 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/26] rcu: Userspace RCU extended QS selftest Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:54 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 15/26] alpha: Fix preemption handling in idle loop Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-31 23:55 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 16/26] alpha: Add missing RCU idle APIs on " Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-01 0:00 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 17/26] cris: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-01 0:01 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 18/26] frv: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-01 0:01 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 19/26] h8300: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-01 0:02 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 20/26] m32r: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-01 0:02 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 21/26] m68k: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-01 0:02 ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-01 0:02 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 22/26] mn10300: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-01 0:03 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 23/26] parisc: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-01 0:03 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 24/26] score: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-01 0:04 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 25/26] xtensa: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-01 0:05 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 21:05 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 26/26] ia64: " Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-01 0:05 ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-31 19:07 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/26] rcu: New rcu_user_enter() and rcu_user_exit() APIs Josh Triplett
2012-09-05 1:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
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