From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>,
linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linville@tuxdriver.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] p54: connect to 11w protected networks
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:09:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1347037745.4256.37.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201209071901.59705.chunkeey@googlemail.com> (sfid-20120907_190207_971998_7DE5E0BF)
On Fri, 2012-09-07 at 19:01 +0200, Christian Lamparter wrote:
> > > Oh no, I mean dynamic reconfiguration of the firmware's
> > > keycache during runtime.
> >
> > Right right, but for MFP that doesn't help since in AP mode
> > we don't know whether to expect encrypted management frames
> > or not.
>
> Hmpf, don't we set the CMAC key in this case?
Hmm, I guess we would have that, and actually ... we know MFP will be
used for the *station* so we should in fact know this already. I'll need
to revise my patch. D'oh.
> (Note: I haven't
> seen much/any of the 11w spec, as 802.11-2012 is AFAICT still not
> available for _free_).
Hm. Well it was published March 29th, so it should be available in 3
weeks if they hold their promise ...
> However, my thinking is/was that when
> mac80211 tries to upload the CMAC key, return -EOPNOTSUPP and
> we kick the ccm per-station key, so the firmware won't try to
> decrypt incoming (mgmt and data) frames with this combination
> anymore.
CMAC keys aren't per-station, so we'd have to remove them all or
something? But I think we already know about MFP for the station when we
set the key, I'll check this.
> > > But for this, we would need
> > > a way to tell mac80211 when driver wants to delete a key
> > > from the hw/fw cache and when there is room for another
> > > one (Didn't you had a patch for the "we have a empty slot
> > > in the rxkey cache we are not using" case some time ago?
> > > However in this case, we want to tell mac80211 what "exact"
> > > key (by MAC of the peer and key index) we want.)
> >
> > I had a patch for the opposite: please remove this key, I can't
> > handle it any more. Adding a new one in that case couldn't be
> > done.
> Ah well, that's too bad. Altough, I thought you removed
> it because its prone to cause rx/tx races?!
No, just because it was unused. Adding a new key could also be
implemented, or you could iterate the keys in some way maybe.
> > > Of course, I'm well aware of the "amount of work" and the
> > > problems associated with removing and readding keys during
> > > runtime without causing races (or just minor races).
> >
> > Actually that's not too difficult, the bigger difficulty is
> > actually knowing which key to re-upload I think.
> Well, the firmware reports a "CACHE MISS" status in every
> encrypted rx frame if no key was found in the rxkey cache.
>
> Of course, being a cache, we can make some sort of LRU
> (not sure about the size, but rxkey cache * 2 would be
> a start) and keep track of the rx key usage. This way
> when a "rxkey" becomes more popular it will be detected
> and "replace" a rxkey that is no longer active... and
> so on.
Right. Seems pretty simple really, but I guess the devil is in the
details :-)
Anyway I'll revise that patch (after dinner) and see if MFP flag is set
correctly, if so then we can just use that.
johannes
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-07 17:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-02 13:22 [PATCH] p54: connect to 11w protected networks Christian Lamparter
2012-09-02 21:48 ` Johannes Berg
2012-09-04 13:19 ` [PATCH v2] " Christian Lamparter
2012-09-04 14:15 ` Johannes Berg
2012-09-04 14:33 ` Dan Williams
2012-09-04 14:37 ` Johannes Berg
2012-09-04 14:54 ` Johannes Berg
2012-09-07 12:17 ` Johannes Berg
2012-09-07 15:47 ` Christian Lamparter
2012-09-07 15:55 ` Johannes Berg
2012-09-07 16:10 ` Christian Lamparter
2012-09-07 16:15 ` Johannes Berg
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Christian Lamparter
[not found] ` <201209071825.13588.chunkeey@googlemail.com>
[not found] ` <1347035277.4256.33.camel@jlt4.sipsolutions.net>
2012-09-07 17:01 ` Christian Lamparter
2012-09-07 17:09 ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2012-09-07 17:28 ` Johannes Berg
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