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From: "Michel Dänzer" <michel@daenzer.net>
To: Imre Deak <imre.deak@intel.com>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 4/4] drm: add support for raw monotonic vblank timestamps
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 16:14:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1349446447.17758.73.camel@thor.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1349445544.17509.13.camel@localhost>

On Fre, 2012-10-05 at 16:59 +0300, Imre Deak wrote: 
> On Fri, 2012-10-05 at 15:55 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > On Fre, 2012-10-05 at 16:37 +0300, Imre Deak wrote: 
> > > In practice we never want the timestamps for vblank and page flip events
> > > to be affected by time adjustments, so in addition to the gettimeofday
> > > timestamps we used so far add support for raw monotonic timestamps.
> > > 
> > > For backward compatibility use flags to select between the old and new
> > > timestamp format.
> > > 
> > > Note that with this change we will save the timestamp in both formats,
> > > for cases where multiple clients are expecting an event notification in
> > > different time formats.
> > 
> > I wonder if all this trouble is really necessary. I honestly can't
> > imagine any user of this API requiring non-monotonic timestamps and
> > breaking with monotonic ones. I think it was simply a mistake that we
> > didn't make them monotonic in the first place (or maybe it wasn't even
> > possible when this API was first introduced).
> 
> Yea, I'd rather simply switch over to monotonic timestamps too. But that
> would break apps that already compare against the wall time for whatever
> purpose (for example A/V sync).

Are there actually any such apps in the real world? Do they work when
the wall time jumps?


-- 
Earthling Michel Dänzer           |                   http://www.amd.com
Libre software enthusiast         |          Debian, X and DRI developer

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-05 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-05 13:36 [RFC 0/4] drm: add raw monotonic timestamp support Imre Deak
2012-10-05 13:36 ` [RFC 1/4] time: export getnstime_raw_and_real for DRM Imre Deak
2012-10-05 16:14   ` Kristian Høgsberg
2012-10-09 10:25     ` Imre Deak
2012-10-05 13:37 ` [RFC 2/4] drm: make memset/calloc for _vblank_time more robust Imre Deak
2012-10-05 13:37 ` [RFC 3/4] drm: use raw time in drm_calc_vbltimestamp_from_scanoutpos Imre Deak
2012-10-05 13:37 ` [RFC 4/4] drm: add support for raw monotonic vblank timestamps Imre Deak
2012-10-05 13:55   ` Michel Dänzer
2012-10-05 13:59     ` Imre Deak
2012-10-05 14:14       ` Michel Dänzer [this message]
2012-10-05 14:21         ` Imre Deak
2012-10-05 22:18   ` Rob Clark
2012-10-05 23:41     ` Imre Deak
2012-10-06  0:09       ` Rob Clark
2012-10-06  0:49         ` Imre Deak
2012-10-07 20:33           ` Daniel Vetter
2012-10-05 23:07 ` [RFC 0/4] drm: add raw monotonic timestamp support Eric Anholt
2012-10-08 11:22   ` Imre Deak
2012-10-11 10:29 ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-11 11:21   ` Imre Deak
2012-10-11 10:32 ` Laurent Pinchart
2012-10-11 11:22   ` Imre Deak
2012-10-23 18:53 ` [PATCH 0/2] drm: add " Imre Deak
2012-10-23 18:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] drm: use monotonic time in drm_calc_vbltimestamp_from_scanoutpos Imre Deak
2012-10-24 23:05   ` Mario Kleiner
2012-10-25 10:28     ` Imre Deak
2012-10-25 19:45       ` Mario Kleiner
2012-10-23 18:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] drm: add support for monotonic vblank timestamps Imre Deak
2012-10-24  8:08   ` Michel Dänzer
2012-10-24 11:40     ` Imre Deak

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