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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] ARM926: Add mb to the cache invalidate/flush
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 13:03:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1349978593.6903.10@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121011073146.43ba7000@lilith> (from albert.u.boot@aribaud.net on Thu Oct 11 00:31:46 2012)

On 10/11/2012 12:31:46 AM, Albert ARIBAUD wrote:
> Hi Marek,
> 
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 00:44:29 +0200, Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de> wrote:
> 
> > Add memory barrier to cache invalidate and flush calls.
> 
> Memory barrier...
> 
> "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it
> means." :)

Could we wait on the condescension until your assertion of what a  
memory clobber does and does not do is resolved?

> A memory barrier's effect is only that all of the volatile accesses
> placed before it in the source code finish when the barrier executes,
> and that none of the volatile accesses placed after it in the source
> code starts before the barrier has executed.

Cite from official GCC documentation please, or example code that shows  
a problem.

We've use memory barriers like this all the time.  It works and is  
standard practice.  If it doesn't work like that it needs to be fixed.

That AVR/ARM example you showed on IRC is special because it's calling  
a libgcc function and GCC knows that the function doesn't access memory  
(loading constant data for the argument doesn't count).  I couldn't get  
the same thing to happen with a normal function, even when declared  
with __attribute__((const)).  Yes, it's a problem for ordering code in  
general and thus keeping slow stuff out of critical sections, but it  
shouldn't be a problem for ordering memory accesses.

-Scott

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-11 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-09 22:44 [U-Boot] [PATCH] ARM926: Add mb to the cache invalidate/flush Marek Vasut
2012-10-11  5:31 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2012-10-11 12:09   ` Marek Vasut
2012-10-11 18:03   ` Scott Wood [this message]
2012-10-11 20:03     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2012-10-11 20:21       ` Scott Wood
2012-10-11 23:37         ` Albert ARIBAUD
2012-10-12  0:03           ` Scott Wood
     [not found]   ` <95DC1AA8EC908B48939B72CF375AA5E3053318DC84@alice.at.omicron.at>
2012-10-11 20:01     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2012-10-11 21:09       ` Scott Wood
2012-10-11 22:44         ` Albert ARIBAUD
2012-10-13  9:56 ` Albert ARIBAUD
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-08-29 13:50 Marek Vasut

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