From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@gmail.com>,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
oleg@redhat.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, darren@dvhart.com,
johan.eker@ericsson.com, p.faure@akatech.ch,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, claudio@evidence.eu.com,
michael@amarulasolutions.com, fchecconi@gmail.com,
tommaso.cucinotta@sssup.it, nicola.manica@disi.unitn.it,
luca.abeni@unitn.it, dhaval.giani@gmail.com, hgu1972@gmail.com,
paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, raistlin@linux.it,
insop.song@ericsson.com, liming.wang@windriver.com,
jkacur@redhat.com, harald.gustafsson@ericsson.com,
vincent.guittot@linaro.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/16] math128: Introduce various 128bit primitives
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 15:47:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1351172849.12171.10.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwLnz4ZNgKxJ6ANn7usppJC_OKHy0uVuh2+EhYTuiL5yw@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 2012-10-24 at 16:18 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@gmail.com> wrote:
> > From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> >
> > Grow rudimentary u128 support without relying on gcc/libgcc.
>
> I missed the part where somebody explains why and what needs this?
> It's going to be very expensive indeed on some platforms, so the fact
> that it is *sometimes* cheap doesn't necessarily imply it should ever
> be used.
>
> So please, explain what the pressing need is that is so worthwhile
> that this is worth it. Maybe it was in a 00/16 cover letter, but not
> only was that not sent out to the people who got 01, you'd still want
> it in the commit message.
There's two use cases:
1) the proposed SCHED_DEADLINE needs to do some u64xu64 math, it
ends up having to multiply a deadline (in usec) with runtime (also
in usec).
2) the infrastructure adds mul_u64_u32_shr(), which is something we
do a lot of with all the time manipulation, apply a multiplier to
some u64 clock value.
We can do better on some archs than we can in generic, so this
interface could give a win there.
But yes, in general people should be very very reluctant to use this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-25 13:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-24 21:53 [RFC][PATCH 00/16] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE v6 Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 01/16] math128: Introduce various 128bit primitives Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 22:48 ` Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 23:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-25 0:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-10-25 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-25 13:47 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2012-10-25 14:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-25 22:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-26 8:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-26 9:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 9:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-26 9:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 9:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-26 10:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 10:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-10-26 10:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-26 11:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-26 12:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-26 18:12 ` Juri Lelli
2012-10-26 18:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-10-26 18:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-10-26 18:41 ` Juri Lelli
2012-10-26 12:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-10-26 13:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-10-26 9:52 ` Harald Gustafsson
2012-10-26 15:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-25 5:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-10-25 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 02/16] math128, x86_64: Implement {mul,add}_u128 in 64bit asm Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 22:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-24 22:47 ` Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 22:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 03/16] sched: add sched_class->task_dead Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 04/16] sched: add extended scheduling interface Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 05/16] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE structures & implementation Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 06/16] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE SMP-related data structures & logic Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 07/16] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE avg_update accounting Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 08/16] sched: add period support for -deadline tasks Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 09/16] sched: add schedstats " Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 10/16] sched: add latency tracing " Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 11/16] rtmutex: turn the plist into an rb-tree Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 12/16] sched: drafted deadline inheritance logic Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 13/16] sched: add bandwidth management for sched_dl Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 14/16] sched: make dl_bw a sub-quota of rt_bw Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 15/16] sched: speed up -dl pushes with a push-heap Juri Lelli
2012-10-24 21:53 ` [PATCH 16/16] sched: add sched_dl documentation Juri Lelli
2012-10-25 7:18 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/16] sched: SCHED_DEADLINE v6 Ingo Molnar
2012-10-25 9:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-10-25 16:58 ` Juri Lelli
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