From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC] command/cache: Add flush_cache command
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:07:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1363889275.31522.12@snotra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130321185837.668395b9@lilith> (from albert.u.boot@aribaud.net on Thu Mar 21 12:58:37 2013)
On 03/21/2013 12:58:37 PM, Albert ARIBAUD wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:35:51 -0500, Scott Wood
> <scottwood@freescale.com> wrote:
>
> > On 03/20/2013 05:11:57 PM, Albert ARIBAUD wrote:
> > > Hi Scott,
> > >
> > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:36:05 -0500, Scott Wood
> > > <scottwood@freescale.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 03/20/2013 02:15:19 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:43:15AM -0500, Scott Wood wrote:
> > > > > > On 03/20/2013 09:58:36 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> > > > > > >Dear Albert,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >In message <20130320145927.2031b913@lilith> you wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I do understand what it does, but I still don't get why
> it
> > > > > should be
> > > > > > >> done, since precisely payload control transfer happens
> > > through
> > > > > > >bootm and
> > > > > > >> the like which already properly flush cache.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It doesn't always happen through bootm. Standalone apps
> use the
> > > > > > "go" command.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, to try and be a bit more verbose about this, for U-Boot
> > > > > applications
> > > > > which use 'go', we still need to ensure cache coherence,
> which is
> > > why
> > > > > bootm does a cache flush, we need some way to flush in this
> case.
> > > >
> > > > It's also an issue with using the "cpu <n> release" command.
> > > >
> > > > > And in this case you aren't better served by say bootelf ?
> > > >
> > > > That wouldn't handle the "cpu release" case. In any case, "go"
> > > exists
> > > > and is currently the recommended way to launch a standalone
> > > application
> > > > in doc/README.standalone.
> > > >
> > > > > > It's a user command! How can it be dead code? I don't
> know of
> > > a
> > > > > > way to include a human user in a patchset...
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you hightlight what exactly causes the world today to go
> off
> > > and
> > > > > fail? Is the hello_world example app sufficient in this case
> or
> > > do we
> > > > > need something much larger?
> > > >
> > > > A user inside Freescale is running standalone performance test
> apps,
> > > > using both "go" and "cpu <n> release" (since the test needs to
> run
> > > on
> > > > all CPUs). They are seeing cache problems running on a T4240 if
> > > they
> > > > don't have this flush. This flush is architecturally required
> > > between
> > > > modifying/loading code and running it.
> > >
> > > Still, why make it a shell command? Since this user needs a flush
> with
> > > "go" and "cpu release", then we should add a programmatic global
> cache
> > > flush in the "go" and "cpu release" commands.
> >
> > Why add any new commands? They could all be subcommands of bootm!
> :-)
>
> I did not say "subcommand", I said "programmatic" -- precisely, I
> don't
> like the idea that a specific command or command form is needed to
> avoid a situation that can be avoided automatically.
bootm subcommands are programmatic in normal use cases.
> > Really, instead of adding one command, you want to modify *two*
> > commands to do the same thing separately, which involves changing
> the
> > syntax of both commands to accept memory range information?
>
> There is no need to change any syntax.
Then how would we know what range to flush?
-Scott
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-21 18:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-19 20:29 [U-Boot] [RFC] command/cache: Add flush_cache command York Sun
2013-03-19 22:01 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-19 22:07 ` York Sun
2013-03-19 23:32 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 13:59 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 14:58 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 16:43 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 17:38 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 18:16 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 19:15 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-20 19:36 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 19:59 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-20 21:31 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 5:42 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 5:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 12:29 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-21 13:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 18:22 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 19:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-21 20:34 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-22 6:30 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-22 12:17 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-22 14:03 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-22 14:29 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-22 15:57 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-22 16:48 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-22 17:19 ` Tom Rini
2013-03-22 20:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 22:11 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-20 22:35 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-20 23:33 ` Michael Cashwell
2013-03-20 23:48 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 0:27 ` Michael Cashwell
2013-03-21 0:31 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 5:02 ` Sricharan R
2013-03-21 18:51 ` Scott Wood
2013-03-21 17:58 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2013-03-21 18:07 ` Scott Wood [this message]
2013-03-21 19:21 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 19:40 ` York Sun
2013-03-20 14:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-20 16:44 ` Scott Wood
2013-04-03 14:02 ` Jim Chargin
2013-04-18 17:09 ` Scott Wood
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