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From: Olivier Langlois <olivier@trillion01.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] process cputimer is moving faster than its corresponding clock
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:20:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1367270454.8833.45.camel@Wailaba2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <517EC582.8090400@gmail.com>

On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 15:09 -0400, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> (4/29/13 2:54 PM), Olivier Langlois wrote:
> > On Mon, 2013-04-29 at 14:31 -0400, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> >> (4/29/13 2:20 PM), Olivier Langlois wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> I'm confused. glibc's rt/tst-cputimer1 doesn't have thread exiting code. I have
> >>>>>> no seen any issue in this accounting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> glibc launch a helper thread to receive timer signal and will also
> >>>>> create a new thread upon signal reception when a timer is created with
> >>>>> sigev_notify = SIGEV_THREAD;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> please see:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> glibc-2.17/nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/timer_create.c
> >>>>> glibc-2.17/nptl/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/timer_routines.c
> >>>>
> >>>> I know. I taled thread exiting. not thread creating. And, as far as I can see, only test sig1 can fail,
> >>>> not thr[12].
> >>>>
> >>> Apart from glibc helper thread, the threads created for handling timer
> >>> firing all do exit immediatly as soon as user callback returns.
> >>
> >> And, libc ensure its exiting finished before starting actual tests. Why such thread exiting
> >> affect timers code? It shouldn't. becuase signal.cputimer is initialized timer_settime().
> >> The initialization is incorrect, we should fix initialization.
> > 
> > It doesn't have anything to do with initialisation.
> > 
> > Quick Quiz #1: How does the cputimer tick?
> > Answer: With calls to account_group_exec_runtime()
> 
> Only account when cputimer->running. Quick Quiz: When turn on cputimer->running?
> 
> 
> > Every task updates occuring after release_task() has been called in
> > do_exit() (scheduler ticks or the task final schedule() call) will be
> > lost because tasks stats are added to the global group stats located in
> > the signal struct in release_task() So every update after release_task()
> > will be lost but account_group_exec_runtime is still called.
> 
> tick lost doesn't occur an issue. because glibc only test posix conformance and
> posix allow inacculacy. In other words, timer must not run faster than real clock.
> but lost and makes slower are accepted in the test.
> 
What is lost isn't cputimer tick. They are accounted
account_group_exec_runtime(). What is lost it is what is added to
curr->sum_exec_runtime. Thus making the thread group clock running
slower than the cputimer.

Please spend some time reading the code and less time writing e-mails.

Read the code of release_task() and where it is called in do_exit().

Once it is done, it should be clear to you.



  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-29 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-05 17:59 [PATCH] process cputimer is moving faster than its corresponding clock Olivier Langlois
2013-04-10 11:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-10 15:48   ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-12  9:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-15  1:55       ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-12  9:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-12 10:50     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-12 15:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-04-15  6:11         ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-19 13:03         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-19 17:38           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-04-19 18:08             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-04-26  4:40               ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-26  6:27                 ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-26 19:08                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-04-27  1:51                     ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-27  2:15                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-04-27  5:02                         ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-27  5:17                           ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-27  5:31                           ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-27  5:06                         ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-27  4:40                     ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Olivier Langlois
2013-04-29  0:45                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-04-29 17:29                         ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-29  5:06                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-04-29 17:10                         ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-29 17:41                           ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-29 17:56                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-04-29 18:20                             ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-29 18:31                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-04-29 18:54                                 ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-29 19:09                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-04-29 21:20                                     ` Olivier Langlois [this message]
2013-04-29 22:42                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]                     ` <1367036552.7911.63.camel@Wailaba2>
2013-04-27  4:40                       ` [PATCH v2 2/3] " Olivier Langlois
2013-04-27  4:41                       ` [PATCH v2 3/3] " Olivier Langlois
2013-04-29  6:25                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2013-04-29 17:16                           ` Olivier Langlois
2013-04-11  3:29   ` [PATCH] " Olivier Langlois

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