From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
aswin@hp.com, scott.norton@hp.com, chegu_vinod@hp.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] sched: Limit idle_balance() when it is being used too frequently
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:48:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1374086931.1816.2.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130717180156.GS23818@dyad.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 20:01 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:51:51PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On 07/17/2013 12:18 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > >So the way I see things is that the only way newidle balance can slow down
> > >things is if it runs when we could have ran something useful.
> >
> > Due to contention on the runqueue locks of other CPUs,
> > newidle also has the potential to keep _others_ from
> > running something useful.
>
> Right, although that should only happen when we do have an imbalance and want
> to go move something. Which in Jason's case is 'rare'. But yes, I suppose
> there's other scenarios where this is far more likely.
>
> > Could we prevent that downside by measuring both the
> > time spent idle, and the time spent in idle balancing,
> > and making sure the idle balancing time never exceeds
> > more than N% of the idle time?
>
> Sure:
>
> idle_balance(u64 idle_duration)
> {
> u64 cost = 0;
>
> for_each_domain(sd) {
> if (cost + sd->cost > idle_duration/N)
> break;
>
> ...
>
> sd->cost = (sd->cost + this_cost) / 2;
> cost += this_cost;
> }
> }
>
> I would've initially suggested using something like N=2 since we're dealing
> with averages and half should ensure we don't run over except for the worst
> peaks. But we could easily use a bigger N.
Okay, I'll try this out. Thank you for your suggestions.
Jason.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-17 18:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-16 19:21 [RFC] sched: Limit idle_balance() when it is being used too frequently Jason Low
2013-07-16 19:27 ` Rik van Riel
2013-07-16 20:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-16 22:48 ` Jason Low
2013-07-17 7:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-17 7:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-17 8:11 ` Jason Low
2013-07-17 9:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-17 15:59 ` Jason Low
2013-07-17 16:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-17 17:51 ` Rik van Riel
2013-07-17 18:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-17 18:48 ` Jason Low [this message]
2013-07-18 4:02 ` Jason Low
2013-07-18 9:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-18 11:59 ` Rik van Riel
2013-07-18 12:15 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2013-07-18 12:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-18 13:06 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2013-07-18 19:06 ` Jason Low
2013-07-19 18:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-19 19:15 ` Jason Low
2013-07-18 12:12 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2013-07-18 19:03 ` Jason Low
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