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From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Cc: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com>,
	Roland Heusser <heusserr@mail.gvsu.edu>,
	Artem Mygaiev <artem.mygaiev@globallogic.com>,
	Lovene Bhatia <lbhatia@samsung.com>, Sisu Xi <xisisu@gmail.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Joshua Whitehead <whitehej@mail.gvsu.edu>,
	Thomas Taranowski <tom@baringforge.com>,
	Drek Darkover <wackerei@gmail.com>,
	Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah.foster@pelagicore.com>,
	Stefano Panella <stefano.panella@citrix.com>,
	Simon Martin <smartin@milliways.cl>,
	Nate Studer <nate.studer@dornerworks.com>,
	mdavis@planetaryresources.com
Subject: Re: Xen for real-time/embedded/automotive
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:14:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1385104485.21937.14.camel@Abyss> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1384802050.16918.219.camel@Solace>


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BTW, there's another thread going on, related to this topic here:

http://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2013-11/msg03004.html

(Lars started it by sharing his notes from the "Seeding a Xen +
Android / Embedded ecosystem" BoF session we had at the Xen Developer
Summit in Edinburgh)

On lun, 2013-11-18 at 20:14 +0100, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> So, looking at the last Xen Developer Summit, other co-located and
> previous conferences, as well as here on the list, there appears to be a
> booming interest in running Xen on embedded systems of various kind.
> 
> This mail to say that:
>  * we're ready to take up the challenge! :-)
>  * in doing that, we really are interested in everyone's collaboration
>    or, at very least, feedback.
> 
> So, if you work in embedded/automotive/aerospace/..., what are you
> requirements? How can we improve Xen (on ARM) for your use case?
> 
> Personally, I'm mostly interested on the scheduling, latency and, in
> general, real-time angle. So whether it is on and Android phone/tablet,
> an in-car infotinement system, an audio workstation or a rocket that you
> want to run Xen, tell me/us what you need in terms of increased
> determinism and decreased latencies!
> 
> For instance, I think it would be nice to start with some measurements:
> http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Xen_Development_Projects#Is_Xen_ready_for_the_Real-Time.2FEmbedded_World.3F
> That would basically mean running some latency oriented benchmarks both
> in Dom0 and in a guest(s), and compare the result with bare metal.
> It would be similar to what Open Source Automation Development Lab
> (OSADL) people do on "latency QA farm". Actually, how could would it be
> to be able to get in touch with them and have Xen run in there? (They
> already do something virt-related, but it's very limited).
> 
> https://www.osadl.org/QA-Farm-Realtime.qa-farm-about.0.html
> https://www.osadl.org/Real-time-host-and-kvm-virtualization.qa-farm-rt-host-and-kvm.0.html
> 
> Here they are some (more) links:
> 
>  - Presentations (from Lovene and Artem) of Xen on some typical embedded
>    systems (Android tablet and in-car infotinement)
>   * http://www.slideshare.net/xen_com_mgr/sruk-xen-presentation2013v7dualandroid
>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km6gBnIqaWo&feature=youtu.be
>   * http://www.slideshare.net/xen_com_mgr/xen-in-oss-based-in-vehicle-infotainment-systems
>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po1IeElg8tg&feature=youtu.be
> 
>  - The Real-Time Xen project Sisu is working on:
>   * https://sites.google.com/site/realtimexen/
> 
> Looking forward to hearing from you!
> 
> Thanks and Regards,
> Dario
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-devel mailing list
> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
> http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-22  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-18 19:14 Xen for real-time/embedded/automotive Dario Faggioli
2013-11-19  1:27 ` Simon Martin
2013-11-20 14:04   ` Lars Kurth
2013-11-20 14:23     ` Simon Martin
2013-11-20 15:14       ` Lars Kurth
2013-11-20 17:36       ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-11-20 17:59         ` Simon Martin
2013-11-20 18:05           ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2013-11-20 18:35             ` Simon Martin
2013-11-28  9:53   ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-28 11:39     ` Simon Martin
2013-11-28 12:03       ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-28 12:39         ` Simon Martin
2013-11-30 11:37           ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-20  4:50 ` Sisu Xi
2013-11-20 15:25   ` Lars Kurth
2013-11-21  7:04     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-21  7:52     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-12-12  8:05     ` Jeremiah Foster
2013-12-12  8:12       ` Dario Faggioli
2013-12-12  9:35         ` Lars Kurth
2013-12-12  9:39           ` Jeremiah Foster
2013-12-12  9:46             ` Dario Faggioli
2013-11-22  7:14 ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2013-11-28  9:35 ` Dario Faggioli

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