From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Nicholas Bellinger <nab@linux-iscsi.org>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/17] scsi: push host_lock down into scsi_{host,target}_queue_ready
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 08:56:59 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1391705819.22335.8.camel@dabdike> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140205124021.286457268@bombadil.infradead.org>
On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 04:39 -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Prepare for not taking a host-wide lock in the dispatch path by pushing
> the lock down into the places that actually need it. Note that this
> patch is just a preparation step, as it will actually increase lock
> roundtrips and thus decrease performance on its own.
I'm not really convinced by the rest of the series. I think patches
4,8,9,10,11,12 (lock elimination from fast path and get/put reduction)
are where the improvements are at and they mostly look ready to apply
modulo some author and signoff fixes.
I'm dubious about replacing a locked set of checks and increments with
atomics for the simple reason that atomics are pretty expensive on
non-x86, so you've likely slowed the critical path down for them. Even
on x86, atomics can be very expensive because of the global bus lock. I
think about three of them in a row is where you might as well stick with
the lock.
Could you benchmark this lot and show what the actual improvement is
just for this series, if any?
I also think we should be getting more utility out of threading
guarantees. So, if there's only one thread active per device we don't
need any device counters to be atomic. Likewise, u32 read/write is an
atomic operation, so we might be able to use sloppy counters for the
target and host stuff (one per CPU that are incremented/decremented on
that CPU ... this will only work using CPU locality ... completion on
same CPU but that seems to be an element of a lot of stuff nowadays).
I'm not saying this will all pan out, but I am saying I don't think just
making all the counters atomic to reduce locking will buy us a huge
amount, so I'd appreciate careful benchmarking to confirm or invalidate
this hypothesis first.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-06 16:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-05 12:39 [PATCH 00/17] SCSI data path micro-optimizations Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 01/17] scsi: handle command allocation failure in scsi_reset_provider Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 02/17] megaraid: simplify internal command handling Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-06 16:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 03/17] scsi: remove scsi_allocate_command/scsi_free_command Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 04/17] scsi: avoid useless free_list lock roundtrips Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:44 ` James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07 9:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 05/17] scsi: simplify command allocation and freeing a bit Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:51 ` James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 06/17] scsi: add support for per-host cmd pools Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07 9:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-07 12:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07 9:35 ` Mike Christie
2014-02-07 12:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07 21:43 ` Mike Christie
2014-02-10 12:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 07/17] virtio_scsi: use cmd_size Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-07 9:13 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 08/17] scsi: do not manipulate device reference counts in scsi_get/put_command Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 09/17] scsi: micro-optimize scsi_request_fn() Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 10/17] scsi: micro-optimize scsi_next_command() Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 11/17] scsi: micro-optimize scsi_requeue_command() Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 12/17] scsi: avoid taking host_lock in scsi_run_queue unless nessecary Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:54 ` James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 13/17] scsi: push host_lock down into scsi_{host,target}_queue_ready Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-06 16:56 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2014-02-06 17:10 ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-06 18:41 ` James Bottomley
2014-02-07 10:42 ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-06 21:58 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-07 10:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-07 19:30 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-08 11:00 ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-09 8:26 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-10 12:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-10 19:53 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-10 11:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-10 20:09 ` Jens Axboe
2014-02-17 9:36 ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-17 22:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-26 15:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2014-02-10 21:10 ` James Bottomley
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 14/17] scsi: convert target_busy to an atomic_t Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 15/17] scsi: convert host_busy to atomic_t Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 16/17] scsi: convert device_busy " Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 12:39 ` [PATCH 17/17] scsi: fix the {host,target,device}_blocked counter mess Christoph Hellwig
2014-02-05 23:41 ` [PATCH 00/17] SCSI data path micro-optimizations James Bottomley
2014-02-06 16:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
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