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From: Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lpoetter@redhat.com, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, kay@redhat.com,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PASSCGROUP to enable passing cgroup path
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:23:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1397759013.2628.86.camel@willson.li.ssimo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVBJFgKwRKBE2jAG6kiGgkJ+MyQiw2nyz5yj0h68kCk9A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 10:35 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Simo Sorce <ssorce@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 10:26 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >>
> >> Not really.  write(2) can't send SCM_CGROUP.  Callers of sendmsg(2)
> >> who supply SCM_CGROUP are explicitly indicating that they want their
> >> cgroup associated with that message.  Callers of write(2) and send(2)
> >> are simply indicating that they have some bytes that they want to
> >> shove into whatever's at the other end of the fd.
> >
> > But there is no attack vector that passes by tricking setuid binaries to
> > write to pre-opened file descriptors on sendmsg(), and for the other
> > cases (connected socket) journald can always cross check with
> > SO_PEERCGROUP, so why do we care again ?
> 
> Because the proposed code does not do what I described, at least as
> far I as I can tell.

Ok let me backtrack, apparently if you explicitly use connect() on a
datagram socket then you *can* write() (thanks to Vivek for checking
this).

So you can trick something to write() to it but you can't do
SO_PEERCGROUP on the other side, because it is not really a connected
socket, the connection is only faked on the sender side by constructing
sendmsg() messages with the original address passed into connect().

So given this unfortunate circumstance, requiring the client to
explicitly pass cgroup data on unix datagram sockets may be an
acceptable request IMO.

Perhaps this could be done with a sendmsg() header flag or simplified
ancillary data even, rather than forcing the sender process to retrieve
and construct the whole information which is already available in
kernel.

Simo.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-17 18:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-15 21:15 [PATCH 0/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP and SO_PASSCGROUP socket options Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP Vivek Goyal
     [not found]   ` <1397596546-10153-2-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-15 21:54     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-15 21:54       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16  0:22       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-15 21:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PASSCGROUP to enable passing cgroup path Vivek Goyal
     [not found]   ` <1397596546-10153-3-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-15 21:53     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-15 21:53       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-15 23:09       ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16  0:20       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20140416002010.GA5035-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16  1:05           ` David Miller
2014-04-16  1:05             ` David Miller
2014-04-16  3:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]           ` <CALCETrWzHYN3kKcmDTFDfGhZqE4u9+6XDtiOu5nncbK_7KKH0g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 10:17             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 10:17               ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]               ` <20140416101709.GA14131-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 14:34                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 14:34                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                   ` <CALCETrUTMSpd=NYn9QuO5Y3WY0uBhjNEHO0jCwZu0L59CpeDew-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 15:10                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 15:10                       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 12:57             ` David Miller
2014-04-16 12:57               ` David Miller
2014-04-16 14:37               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                 ` <CALCETrVv8SPM5xjOVGy7qO2aq3FKtG2uG57J49nO7Wy0-gg0Ew-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 16:13                   ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 16:13                     ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 16:21                     ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                       ` <20140416162149.GI1257-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 16:54                         ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 16:54                           ` Simo Sorce
     [not found]                     ` <1397664837.19767.410.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 16:31                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 16:31                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CALCETrXn7b6UuALpGUVoyQYfR2uzk5tj2ABV=dkvtFNgqM5sxQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 17:02                           ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 17:02                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 17:29                             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                               ` <CALCETrU_yKQVZyVug25cxwQFjWJ7Zf20FY-6ht+RJifXtDdDWg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 17:34                                 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-16 17:34                                   ` Simo Sorce
     [not found]                                   ` <1397669685.19767.450.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 17:53                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 17:53                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:36                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:36                                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                   ` <20140416183614.GH31074-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 18:40                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:40                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:51                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:59                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:06                           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:06                             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                             ` <20140416180642.GG31074-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 18:13                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:13                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:25                                 ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                   ` <20140416182530.GB550-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 18:35                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-16 18:35                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                       ` <CALCETrUs1js3Br81ZkiQnsuWduzOiqDe3aV0K_z_zw0znSuiag-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 19:06                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 19:06                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 19:13                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                             ` <CALCETrUv56awd+UoO_f8LLL2FVq-Hc6Bd6iBGMqWjVGpgxgTSg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 19:39                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 19:39                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 20:24                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 13:41                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                 ` <CALCETrVUw5+vCCONy1VTXpskbY_eZFo2CtbehwV5Mhj4d4+icw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-16 18:59                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-16 18:59                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 15:41                                     ` Daniel J Walsh
2014-04-17 16:05                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                       ` <534FF61B.4010901-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 16:04                                         ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:04                                           ` Simo Sorce
     [not found]                                           ` <1397750674.2628.44.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 16:11                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:11                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                               ` <CALCETrUrj2LtAoXp600BD2ANgE2UUEbTYQrK8hHqDR=qpeFPcg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 16:24                                                 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:24                                                   ` Simo Sorce
     [not found]                                                   ` <1397751853.2628.50.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 16:37                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:37                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                       ` <CALCETrWNWvumFg9Qba0GEOjYop4WYe530tCPtakrhnoCrHqhUQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 16:48                                                         ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:48                                                           ` Simo Sorce
     [not found]                                                           ` <1397753323.2628.60.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 16:55                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 16:55                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                               ` <CALCETrXj6kD3E+vsaWmkrSbaQYTu=c-Hsw640jh4O+FbojYk2g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 17:12                                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 17:12                                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 17:26                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                                     ` <CALCETrVq4HRpfWOAbZAQbyjuraQd=OxnW=WjSoe5JgBzRStiKg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 17:33                                                                       ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 17:33                                                                         ` Simo Sorce
     [not found]                                                                         ` <1397756025.2628.64.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 17:35                                                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:35                                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                                             ` <CALCETrVBJFgKwRKBE2jAG6kiGgkJ+MyQiw2nyz5yj0h68kCk9A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 17:47                                                                               ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 17:47                                                                                 ` Simo Sorce
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <1397756821.2628.69.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 18:05                                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:05                                                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:23                                                                             ` Simo Sorce [this message]
     [not found]                                                                               ` <1397759013.2628.86.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 18:33                                                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:33                                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:50                                                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 18:50                                                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20140417185023.GA32527-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 18:57                                                                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 18:57                                                                                       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <20140417185742.GB32527-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 19:06                                                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 19:06                                                                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <CALCETrXJPJeGBdauQS_WR5FNaZXR=05NjNKuC6r0xFORt+eaJQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 19:15                                                                                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 19:15                                                                                               ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 19:19                                                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 19:10                                                                                     ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 19:10                                                                                       ` Simo Sorce
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <1397761817.2628.113.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 19:16                                                                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 19:16                                                                                           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <20140417191646.GA2461-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 19:46                                                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 19:46                                                                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                                                               ` <CALCETrW3F1+3qF3thrAmuoWVbRveBJ2=owpigh4mv6iAafoQCw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-21 15:03                                                                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-21 15:03                                                                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-21 15:47                                                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23 15:07                                                                                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 15:37                                                                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23 16:01                                                                                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 19:23                                                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 17:52                                                                       ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 17:52                                                                         ` Simo Sorce
     [not found]                                                                         ` <1397757169.2628.75.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 18:04                                                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-17 18:04                                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                                             ` <CALCETrUon7mZzp12th2bZ=cJyTjn8ePwg_VtPWL_bykjnnpKLw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-17 18:31                                                                               ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 18:31                                                                                 ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-17 16:38                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 16:12                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-17 16:12                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 16:45           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 17:29             ` David Miller
     [not found]               ` <20140423.132955.671992126955940387.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-24 20:34                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-24 20:34                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                   ` <20140424203427.GC19091-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-24 20:48                     ` David Miller
2014-04-24 20:48                       ` David Miller
2014-04-24 21:04                       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-24 21:11                         ` David Miller
     [not found]                           ` <20140424.171155.806959282091051918.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-25  0:29                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-25  0:29                               ` Simo Sorce
     [not found] ` <1397596546-10153-1-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-22 20:05   ` [PATCH 0/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP and SO_PASSCGROUP socket options David Miller
2014-04-22 20:05     ` David Miller
2014-04-22 20:08     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-22 20:29       ` David Miller
2014-04-22 20:31         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-22 20:32           ` David Miller
     [not found]             ` <20140422.163251.1863774803211446171.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-23  0:37               ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-23  0:37                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]           ` <CALCETrX_TCbKy-3W590wG3rq9O3Hzbqc_wu3EGg7PKn2NNsTpQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-23 19:05             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 19:05               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 20:53               ` Daniel J Walsh
     [not found]                 ` <5358284B.7020706-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-24 13:01                   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-24 13:01                     ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <20140422.160558.627080587952506099.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-23 15:55       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 15:55         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20140423155512.GA24651-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-23 16:16           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 16:16             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-04-23 17:21         ` Andy Lutomirski

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