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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"dvhart@dvhart.com" <dvhart@dvhart.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Driver model/resources, ACPI, DT, etc (sigh)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 16:21:33 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1399875693.17624.95.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11391971.y9GOPHmK72@wuerfel>

On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 15:35 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> With ACPI (or a server running OF for that matter), you assume that the
> PCI host is operational and all buses are fully probed and then you
> have methods for doing hotplugging, you just look at the device that
> are already initialized by the firmware.
> 
> With embedded systems, you (in general, some steps may get skipped
> in practice) go through a lot more steps:
> - detect the presence of the host bridge device
> - enable clocks, voltages, phys, resets, etc.
> - set up inbound and outbound MMIO and PIO address translation windows
> - perform a full bus scan and assign bus and device resources
> 
> We probably woulnd't go through that hassle on ACPI systems. I think
> we shouldn't attempt any translation here, and keep the code completely
> separate, with the common parts being handled by the PCI core as we
> do today.

Well, you said it "or a server running OF for that matter" ...

PCI Hotplug is a whole separate can of worms, let's not get there :-)

Even on OF machine, it's very platform specific. I don't think we can
use it as an example of something that's widely different between DT
and ACPI per-se as it's going to be widely different between everything
non-ACPI.

This is a case of ACPI-does-methods being actually somewhat useful.

Cheers,
Ben.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-12  6:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-02 21:42 [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] Driver model/resources, ACPI, DT, etc (sigh) Olof Johansson
2014-05-03  0:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-03  2:02   ` Mark Brown
2014-05-04 12:28     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05  8:45       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-05 19:06         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-06 12:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-12 21:59           ` Mark Brown
2014-05-12 22:03             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13  7:34               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 10:47                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 12:11                 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-13 13:08                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 19:31                     ` Mark Brown
2014-05-13 19:53                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 21:19                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-14 13:04                         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-15 12:05                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17  1:11                             ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-19  0:02                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17 13:24                             ` Mark Brown
2014-05-18 23:56                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-23 17:33                                 ` Mark Brown
2014-05-26 21:19                                 ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-26 21:55                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 20:02                     ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-17  3:57                   ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17 13:09                     ` Mark Brown
2014-05-17  6:52                       ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-23 17:21                         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-03 15:14   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-04 11:14     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-04 17:18       ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-04 17:27         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-04 22:02           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05  2:44             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-05 11:22               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05  2:52           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-05  4:21             ` Guenter Roeck
2014-05-05 23:05               ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-04 21:33         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05  8:43           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-05 11:32             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-05 11:31               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-06 12:18                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-06 13:35                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-08  0:16                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-12  6:21                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2014-05-13 21:14                     ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-13 21:40                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-13 21:28                         ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-13 21:51                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17  3:22                             ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-14 12:06                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-14 12:25                         ` Mark Brown
2014-05-18 16:34                           ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-14 12:31                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17  3:02                         ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17  2:57                       ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-18 16:31                       ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-05 15:09             ` Rob Herring
2014-05-05 16:02               ` Jason Cooper
2014-05-05 16:41                 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-05-05 22:55               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-17  2:32             ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-05  8:39         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-05 11:37           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-07 11:05           ` David Woodhouse
2014-05-07 13:06             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-08  3:27             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-17  2:05               ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17  1:54         ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17 23:03           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-05-18 20:28             ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-18 16:12               ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-19 20:53                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-04 10:56   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-04 12:19     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-04 17:23       ` Olof Johansson
2014-05-04 21:58         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-06  2:41           ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-06 11:41             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-08 11:36               ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-08 12:08                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-05-17  4:39             ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-17  4:33           ` Darren Vincent Hart
2014-05-03  0:23 ` Darren Hart
2014-05-05 16:58 ` Linus Walleij
2014-05-06  5:02   ` Darren Hart
2014-05-17  0:32 ` Darren Vincent Hart

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