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From: Spam <spam@tnonline.net>
To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: when will it end?
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:31:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1406818064.20041027103126@tnonline.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <417F3C7C.2020408@slaphack.com>



> | current repacker code state is 'unsupported', it is even removed from the
> | latest -mm kernels.   Namesys plans are to make the repacker proprietary.

> Really?

> I sort of thought the priority was to get into the mainstream kernel, so
> this seems an odd move.  Why do something that decreases your benchmark?
> ~ And how much would people be willing to pay you when most Unix
> filesystems are rarely (if ever) repacked and Windows (even DOS, I
> think) comes with a free repacker of its own?

  Windows 2000 and later comes with a lite version of Diskeeper from
  Executive Software. You can buy a much more advanced version of
  Diskeeper to use in your corporate network, on your servers, or your
  desktop. It offers things like scheduling, continuos background mode
  and other things.

  http://www.executive.com/defrag/defrag.asp

  I think a free, limited/basic version of the repacker may be
  beneficial to Namesys. It would increase awareness of the feature
  and thus increase demand for a more advanced version that can work
  in corporate environments? Many/Most Linux users believe that
  repacker/defrag is never needed and this is the reason why there are
  no such tools available.

> The current state of the repacker suggests that the tradeoff is not
> worth it.  If it takes longer than 2 days for an initial repack of a
> filesystem like mine, the total amount of time I have to spend waiting
> for the system while it's dog-slow and repacking is likely more than the
> time I'd save by having it be slightly faster the rest of the time, or
> even the time I'd have to work at minimum wage to buy more storage to
> cover space the repacker could save me.

  2 days? I ran the repacker within hours on a 80GB disk. Perhaps your
  DMA and/or 32bit I/O is disabled?

  hdparm -c3 -d1 -A1 will enabled those and disk read-ahead.
  hdparm -W1 will enable disk write cache. Not recommended if you
  encounter power loss often as journals and data may be out of sync
  as the contents of the write cache is lost when a power failure
  occurs. It will speed up things a little though.

  ~S

> Compare this to Norton SpeedDisk, which takes about half an hour to
> defrag a 20-40 gig FAT32/NTFS drive -- the first time.  After that, if
> run daily, it takes 10-15 mins.

> But also, is chunk_size measured in megabytes?  (mine was 512)  Does it
> mean what I think it means?

> If the repacker is still free next time I go on vacation, I'll try again
> - -- see if a week or two will straighten things out.
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-27  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-27  0:57 when will it end? David Masover
2004-10-27  3:34 ` Alex Zarochentsev
2004-10-27  6:13   ` David Masover
2004-10-27  8:31     ` Spam [this message]
2004-10-27 16:59       ` Hans Reiser
2004-10-27 17:06         ` Spam
2004-10-28  2:09         ` David Masover
2004-10-30 16:23           ` Redeeman
2004-11-18  5:07             ` David Masover
2004-11-18 10:18               ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-11-22  3:16                 ` Thomas Graham
2004-10-27 18:52 ` Alex Zarochentsev
2004-10-28  1:49   ` David Masover
2004-10-28  8:29     ` mjt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-11-18 17:15 Andreas Sundstrom

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