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From: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@hp.com>,
	Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] locking/rwsem: don't resched at the end of optimistic spinning
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 14:12:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1407186754.11985.7.camel@j-VirtualBox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140804204824.GT3935@laptop>

On Mon, 2014-08-04 at 22:48 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 04, 2014 at 02:36:35PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > On 08/04/2014 03:55 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 10:36:16PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > >>For a fully preemptive kernel, a call to preempt_enable() could
> > >>potentially trigger a task rescheduling event. In the case of rwsem
> > >>optimistic spinning, the task has either gotten the lock or is going
> > >>to sleep soon. So there is no point to do rescheduling here.
> > >Uh what? Why shouldn't we preempt if we've gotten the lock? What if a
> > >FIFO task just woke up?
> > 
> > I didn't mean that we shouldn't preempt if there is a higher priority task.
> > I am sure that there will be other preemption points along the way that a
> > higher priority task can take over the CPU. I just want to say that doing it
> > here may not be the best place especially if the task is going to sleep
> > soon.
> > 
> > If you think this patch does not make sense, I can remove it as other
> > patches in the set has no dependency on this one.
> 
> Yeah, its actively harmful, you delay preemption by an unspecified
> amount of time in case of the spin-acquire. We've had such bugs in -rt
> and they're not fun.
> 
> Basically the only time you should use no_resched is if the very next
> statement is schedule().

Right, we actually added an extra resched check at essentially the same
point in the mutex spinning code  :)

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-04 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-04  2:36 [PATCH 0/7] locking/rwsem: enable reader opt-spinning & writer respin Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 1/7] locking/rwsem: don't resched at the end of optimistic spinning Waiman Long
2014-08-04  7:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20140804075528.GI9918-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-04 18:36       ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04 18:36         ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04 20:48         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-08-04 21:12           ` Jason Low [this message]
2014-08-05 17:54           ` Waiman Long
2014-08-05 17:54             ` Waiman Long
     [not found] ` <1407119782-41119-1-git-send-email-Waiman.Long-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-04  2:36   ` [PATCH 2/7] locking/rwsem: more aggressive use " Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36     ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04  4:09     ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found]     ` <1407119782-41119-3-git-send-email-Waiman.Long-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-04  4:10       ` Jason Low
2014-08-04  4:10         ` Jason Low
2014-08-04 15:44         ` Waiman Long
2014-08-13  5:51           ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-13 16:41             ` Waiman Long
2014-08-15  3:34               ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-15 17:58                 ` Waiman Long
2014-08-16  7:40                   ` Mike Galbraith
2014-08-17 23:41                   ` Dave Chinner
2014-08-18 22:48                     ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04  4:25   ` [PATCH 0/7] locking/rwsem: enable reader opt-spinning & writer respin Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-04  4:25     ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found]     ` <1407126313.3216.10.camel-5JQ4ckphU/8SZAcGdq5asR6epYMZPwEe5NbjCUgZEJk@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-04 18:07       ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04 18:07         ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 3/7] locking/rwsem: check for active writer/spinner before wakeup Waiman Long
     [not found]   ` <1407119782-41119-4-git-send-email-Waiman.Long-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-04 21:20     ` Jason Low
2014-08-04 21:20       ` Jason Low
2014-08-05 17:56       ` Waiman Long
2014-08-05 17:56         ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 4/7] locking/rwsem: threshold limited spinning for active readers Waiman Long
     [not found]   ` <1407119782-41119-5-git-send-email-Waiman.Long-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-05  4:54     ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-05  4:54       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-05  5:30       ` Davidlohr Bueso
     [not found]         ` <1407216632.2566.22.camel-5JQ4ckphU/8SZAcGdq5asR6epYMZPwEe5NbjCUgZEJk@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-05  5:41           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-05  5:41             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2014-08-05 18:14       ` Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 5/7] locking/rwsem: move down rwsem_down_read_failed function Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 6/7] locking/rwsem: enables optimistic spinning for readers Waiman Long
2014-08-04  2:36 ` [PATCH 7/7] locking/rwsem: allow waiting writers to go back to optimistic spinning Waiman Long

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