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From: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>
To: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: Security policy ambiguities - XSA-108 process post-mortem
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 13:32:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1413894766.23337.34.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21557.50031.783473.873273@chiark.greenend.org.uk>

On Thu, 2014-10-09 at 00:06 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> 
>   Please provide URLs which are accessible and legible on mobile phone
>   browsers, which do not require cookies enabled to load, and which
>   are useable with text mode browsers, browsers which do not execute
>   Javascript, and with screen readers and other accessibility
>   software.  If the member of the Xen Project Security Team who
>   processes your application finds that their usual web browser does
>   not display the required information, when presented with the URLs
>   in your email, your application might be delayed or even rejected.

While I appreciate where you are coming from I don't think it is the
place of this policy to rail against the crapitude of the modern web and
try and enforce our own standards on things (much as I would like too).

I don't think it is unreasonable to expect that members of the security
team who typically run a browser with this crud disabled (which includes
myself) would load up their special sandboxed/throwaway browser with a
default config when faced with this sort of thing.

That said, the bits about accessibility seem less unreasonable, on the
basis that its not beyond the realms of possibility that someone
processing an application might not have the option of turning off a
screenreader etc.

Ian.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-21 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-08 15:54 Security policy ambiguities - XSA-108 process post-mortem Xen Project Security Team
2014-10-08 23:06 ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-08 23:55   ` Lars Kurth
2014-10-09  9:37     ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-09 11:24       ` George Dunlap
2014-10-09 16:19         ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-10 14:25         ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-13 12:17           ` George Dunlap
2014-10-29 13:27             ` James Bulpin
2015-01-19 20:36               ` James McKenzie
2015-01-20  8:54                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 12:29                 ` George Dunlap
2015-02-12 10:44                 ` Lars Kurth
2014-11-10 18:01     ` Ian Jackson
2014-11-11 12:39       ` John Haxby
2014-11-12 18:09       ` George Dunlap
2014-11-13 17:36         ` Ian Jackson
2014-11-14 12:10       ` Lars Kurth
2014-11-14 12:50         ` Ian Jackson
2014-11-14 17:37           ` Lars Kurth
2015-01-16 19:23         ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:48         ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 0/9] " Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52           ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 1/9] Grammar fix: Remove a comma splice Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 2/9] Add headings Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 3/9] Deployment with Security Team Permission Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 10:20               ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-19 11:18                 ` Lars Kurth
2015-01-19 13:38                   ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 14:25                     ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-19 15:55                     ` George Dunlap
2015-01-19 19:48                       ` Lars Kurth
2015-01-19 12:36                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-19 13:50                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-19 12:35               ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-19 13:08                 ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 13:10                   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 4/9] Use a public mailing list for predisclosure membership applications Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 12:49               ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-19 13:10                 ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 13:19                   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-19 16:21                     ` Don Koch
2015-01-19 17:57                     ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 5/9] Tighten, and make more objective, predisclosure list application Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 6/9] Explicitly permit within-list information sharing during embargo Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 7/9] Clarify and fix prior consultation text Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 8/9] Clarify what announcements may be made by to service users Ian Jackson
2015-01-16 19:52             ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 9/9] Document changes in changelog and heading Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 10:29           ` [PATCH SECURITY-POLICY 0/9] Re: Security policy ambiguities - XSA-108 process post-mortem Jan Beulich
2015-01-19 13:36             ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-19 19:45               ` Lars Kurth
2015-01-19 14:57           ` George Dunlap
2015-01-23 19:31           ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 0/9] " Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 1/9] Grammar fix: Remove a comma splice Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 2/9] Add headings Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 3/9] Deployment with Security Team Permission Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 4/9] Use a public mailing list for predisclosure membership applications Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 5/9] Tighten, and make more objective, predisclosure list application Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 6/9] Explicitly permit within-list information sharing during embargo Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 7/9] Clarify and fix prior consultation text Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 8/9] Clarify what announcements may be made by to service users Ian Jackson
2015-01-23 19:31             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 9/9] Document changes in changelog and heading Ian Jackson
2015-02-02 17:27             ` [PATCH v2 SECURITY-POLICY 0/9] Security policy ambiguities - XSA-108 process post-mortem Ian Jackson
2015-02-03  9:49               ` Lars Kurth
2014-10-09 11:09   ` George Dunlap
2014-10-10 14:47   ` Jan Beulich
2014-10-13 11:23     ` George Dunlap
2014-10-13 12:16     ` Lars Kurth
2014-11-10 17:25       ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-29 13:27     ` James Bulpin
2014-11-10 17:21     ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-21 12:32   ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2014-10-21 14:31     ` Matt Wilson
2014-10-21 15:06       ` Jan Beulich
2014-11-10 17:29       ` Ian Jackson
2014-11-10 17:39         ` George Dunlap
2014-11-10 18:04           ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-30 11:58     ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-31 22:40       ` Matt Wilson
2014-11-03 11:37         ` George Dunlap
2014-11-03 17:23           ` Matt Wilson
2014-11-05 11:17         ` Ian Campbell
2014-11-06 16:01           ` Lars Kurth
2014-11-10 12:35             ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-22 23:23   ` Bastian Blank
2014-10-29 13:27     ` James Bulpin
2014-11-10 17:42     ` Ian Jackson
2014-10-09  8:29 ` Ian Campbell
2014-10-09  8:45   ` Processed: " xen
2014-10-29 13:27 ` James Bulpin
2014-10-30 10:51   ` Tim Deegan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-10-21 18:20 Lars Kurth
2014-10-22  0:41 ` Matt Wilson
2014-10-22 13:05   ` Lars Kurth
2014-10-22 15:53     ` Matt Wilson
2014-11-10 17:44       ` Ian Jackson

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