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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Julien Grall <julien.grall@linaro.org>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, tim@xen.org,
	stefano.stabellini@citrix.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 07/24] xen/arm: Introduce xen, passthrough property
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 15:38:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1424446687.30924.311.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1421159133-31526-8-git-send-email-julien.grall@linaro.org>

On Tue, 2015-01-13 at 14:25 +0000, Julien Grall wrote:
> When a device is marked for passthrough (via the new property "xen,passthrough"),
> dom0 must not access to the device (i.e not loading a driver), but should

"must not access the device (i.e. not load a driver)"

perhaps "should still be able"

> be able to manage the MMIO/interrupt of the passthrough device.
> 
> The latter part will allow the toolstack to map MMIO/IRQ when a device
> is pass through to a guest.
> 
> The property "xen,passthrough" will be translated as 'status="disabled"'
> in the device tree to avoid DOM0 using the device. We assume that DOM0 is
> able to cope with this property (already the case for Linux).

Is it true to say "already the case for Linux, and required by ePAPR"?
Or are we relying on a Linux implementation detail here?

> diff --git a/docs/misc/arm/device-tree/passthrough.txt b/docs/misc/arm/device-tree/passthrough.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000..04645b3
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/docs/misc/arm/device-tree/passthrough.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@
> +Device passthrough
> +===================
> +
> +Any device that will be passthrough to a guest should have a property
> +"xen,passthrough" in their device tree node.
> +
> +The device won't be exposed to DOM0 and therefore no driver will be loaded.

This (and the commit message to some extent) seem stricter than what I
think is actually required here.

I understand that it is a very good idea for any sort of passthrough to
prevent dom0 from messing with a device before it gets assigned to the
eventual guest domain.

But AIUI it is not strictly speaking a hard requirement that dom0 does
not do this and depending on the device it may be perfectly acceptable
for dom0 to drive a device for a bit and then give it to a guest and
then have it back again etc.

So I would suggest to invert the wording a bit, currently it reads
something like "if a device is to be passed through then it must have
this property set, then dom0 will not touch".

So I'd suggest something weaker like:

        Devices with this property set will not be exposed to dom0 and
        therefore no driver will be loaded.
        
        It is highly recommended to set this property on devices which
        are to be passed through since many devices will not cope with
        being accessed by dom0 and then handed over to another domain.

(second half of the second paragraph could be clearer though I think)

(I'll hit send now and then review the code itself)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-20 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 251+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-13 14:25 [PATCH v3 00/24] xen/arm: Add support for non-pci passthrough Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/24] xen: Extend DOMCTL createdomain to support arch configuration Julien Grall
2015-01-13 15:08   ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-01-19 16:46   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 12:40     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-28 15:50   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:15   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 16:09     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 16:37       ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:09       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 16:35     ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:48     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-02-23 16:00       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 21:48         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-24 10:06           ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/24] xen/arm: Divide GIC initialization in 2 parts Julien Grall
2015-01-28 16:09   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:19     ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 15:19   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/24] xen/dts: Allow only IRQ translation that are mapped to main GIC Julien Grall
2015-01-28 16:11   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:20   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/24] xen: guestcopy: Provide an helper to safely copy string from guest Julien Grall
2015-01-13 15:10   ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-01-19 16:51   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 12:45     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-20 13:16       ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-20 15:22   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/24] xen/arm: vgic: Introduce a function to initialize pending_irq Julien Grall
2015-02-20 15:24   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/24] xen/arm: Map disabled device in DOM0 Julien Grall
2015-01-28 16:18   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 16:23     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:41       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:27   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/24] xen/arm: Introduce xen, passthrough property Julien Grall
2015-01-28 16:36   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 16:53     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:43       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:38   ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2015-02-20 17:01     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:12       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:43         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 15:42   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:03     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:15       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:44         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/24] xen/arm: Allow virq != irq Julien Grall
2015-01-28 16:47   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 16:56     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-28 17:00       ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:50       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 15:52   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:09     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-27 14:33       ` Julien Grall
2015-02-27 14:44         ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-27 15:55           ` Julien Grall
2015-02-27 14:25     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/24] xen/arm: route_irq_to_guest: Check validity of the IRQ Julien Grall
2015-01-28 17:55   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 18:05     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:52       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 16:00   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:21     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/24] xen/arm: gic: Add sanity checks gic_route_irq_to_guest Julien Grall
2015-01-28 18:15   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 16:07   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:28     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:20       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:47         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:52           ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:54             ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:04               ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/24] xen/arm: Let the toolstack configure the number of SPIs Julien Grall
2015-01-28 18:26   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 18:58     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:01       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:14         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 16:08     ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:29       ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:22         ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:48           ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 16:23   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:31     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/24] xen/arm: Release IRQ routed to a domain when it's destroying Julien Grall
2015-01-28 18:38   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 16:31   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:41     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:25       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:49         ` Julien Grall
2015-03-03 12:50       ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 13/24] xen/arm: Implement hypercall PHYSDEVOP_{, un}map_pirq Julien Grall
2015-01-19 16:54   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:01     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-28 18:52   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-28 19:04     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:17       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:26         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:33           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 16:53             ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23  9:33               ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:28                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:53                   ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:04                     ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:11                       ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:34                         ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 21:54                           ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:22                     ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:51               ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:02                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-04 14:37                   ` Julien Grall
2015-03-04 14:55                     ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-04 14:56                       ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/24] xen/dts: Use unsigned int for MMIO and IRQ index Julien Grall
2015-02-20 16:55   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:57     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 15/24] xen/dts: Provide an helper to get a DT node from a path provided by a guest Julien Grall
2015-02-20 16:56   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:43     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:29       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 15:30   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:01     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:27       ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-10 13:58         ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 12:34           ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-19 14:53             ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 16/24] xen/passthrough: Introduce iommu_construct Julien Grall
2015-01-19 17:02   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:28     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-20 16:40       ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 17:11         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-21 10:23           ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-21 10:37             ` Julien Grall
2015-01-21 10:48               ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-21 12:13                 ` Julien Grall
2015-01-21 14:13                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-21 14:22                     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-21 14:29                       ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-20 16:58   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:45     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:31       ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:04         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 17/24] xen/passthrough: arm: release earlier the DT devices assigned to a guest Julien Grall
2015-01-20  9:19   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:30     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-20 16:42       ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-28 18:59   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 17:03   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:46     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23  9:37       ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:33         ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:22           ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 18/24] xen/passthrough: iommu_deassign_device_dt: By default reassign device to nobody Julien Grall
2015-01-20  9:21   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:31     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 10:20   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-20 17:04   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23  9:40     ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 10:10       ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 10:20         ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 15:39           ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:24             ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 16:35               ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:37             ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 16:47               ` Jan Beulich
2015-02-23 16:54                 ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 10:10     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 15:34       ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-10 15:29         ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 12:35           ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-19 15:07             ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 19/24] xen/iommu: arm: Wire iommu DOMCTL for ARM Julien Grall
2015-01-20  9:22   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:32     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 17:06   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 20/24] xen/passthrough: Extend XEN_DOMCTL_assign_device to support DT device Julien Grall
2015-01-20  9:34   ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-20 14:37     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-20 16:43       ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-29 10:29     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 10:37       ` Jan Beulich
2015-01-29 11:40       ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 10:29   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 11:45     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:09       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 13:09         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 15:03           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 15:14             ` Julien Grall
2015-02-20 17:17   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 16:25     ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-03-10 16:52       ` Julien Grall
2015-03-10 22:45         ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-03-10 23:07           ` Julien Grall
2015-03-10 23:39             ` Daniel De Graaf
2015-03-11 12:30               ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11  8:53           ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-11 12:15             ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 12:23               ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-11 12:35                 ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 12:45               ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-10 16:33     ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 12:37       ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-11 13:50         ` Julien Grall
2015-03-11 13:55           ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-11 14:03             ` Jan Beulich
2015-03-11 14:11               ` Julien Grall
2015-03-13 16:47           ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 21/24] tools/(lib)xl: Add partial device tree support for ARM Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:03   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:02     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:26       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-23 11:31     ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 11:46   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 17:06     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 17:22       ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-17 13:32         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 12:03   ` Ian Jackson
2015-02-23 12:44     ` Ian Jackson
2015-02-23 18:43     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 19:12       ` Ian Jackson
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 22/24] tools/libxl: arm: Use an higher value for the GIC phandle Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:07   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:05     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:28       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 13:48         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 15:04           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 15:12             ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 14:36           ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 22:02             ` Julien Grall
2015-02-24 10:08               ` Ian Campbell
2015-03-18 14:14                 ` Julien Grall
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 23/24] libxl: Add support for non-PCI passthrough Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:12   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:08     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:31       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 13:51         ` Julien Grall
2015-02-23 14:41           ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 14:42   ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 14:25 ` [PATCH v3 24/24] xl: Add new option dtdev Julien Grall
2015-01-29 11:18   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 12:09     ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 12:32       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-01-29 13:51         ` Julien Grall
2015-01-29 15:06           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-02-23 14:44             ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 14:45   ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-23 22:03     ` Julien Grall
2015-02-24 10:07       ` Ian Campbell
2015-01-13 17:56 ` [PATCH v3 00/24] xen/arm: Add support for non-pci passthrough Julien Grall
2015-02-20 17:18 ` Ian Campbell
2015-02-20 17:47   ` Julien Grall

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