From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@citrix.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
"JBeulich@suse.com" <JBeulich@suse.com>,
"chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com" <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] Intel Cache Monitoring: Current Status and Future Opportunities
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 13:16:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1428498241.5671.124.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55251154.3020807@eu.citrix.com>
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On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 12:30 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
> On 04/04/2015 03:14 AM, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> > ### Per-vCPU cache monitoring
> >
> > This means being able to tell how much of the L3 is being used by each vCPU.
> > Monitoring the cache occupancy of a specific domain, would still be possible,
> > just by summing up the contributions from all the domain's vCPUs.
>
> One note about this -- vcpu cache utilization may be predictive
> short-term, but long-term it's probably less important because the guest
> may move processes between vcpus.
>
True. That, however, applies to any measurements / estimation of
per-vcpu load, for any definition of 'load', doesn't it? So, yes we can
use it for short term decisions and/or time-average it (i.e., exactly as
we do with per-vcpu and runqueue load, e.g., in Credit2).
> So it may make sense to leave the
> occupancy stats on a per-domain basis anyway.
>
Indeed, but then I'm not sure I see a way to use that stats, at least
not from inside the scheduler (if we're talking about this), do you?
> Thoughts?
>
IMO, a nice way to use CMT in a per-vcpu configutation, from within the
scheduler, would have been to know, for a given vcpu, how much of the
data it uses are (still) resident on a given cache layer of a given pCPU
at a given time instant. That sort of info could have been used to
decide whether it is wise to move the vcpu away of that pCPU or not, in
a way that is complementary to other metrics which we already have,
and/or, in general, that can be implemented in software (e.g. load
average stats).
Doing that, however, requires too many RMIDs, and it's not terribly
useful if done on L3. Therefore, I think that investing time in enabling
and trying to exploit per-*pCPU* monitoring.
Thoughts? :-D
Thanks and Regards,
Dario
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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-04 2:14 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Intel Cache Monitoring: Current Status and Future Opportunities Dario Faggioli
2015-04-04 2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] x86: improve psr scheduling code Dario Faggioli
2015-04-06 13:48 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-04-04 2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] Xen: x86: print max usable RMID during init Dario Faggioli
2015-04-06 13:48 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-04-07 10:11 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-04-04 2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] xen: psr: reserve an RMID for each core Dario Faggioli
2015-04-06 13:59 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-04-07 10:19 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-04-07 13:57 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-04-07 8:24 ` Chao Peng
2015-04-07 10:07 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-04-08 13:28 ` George Dunlap
2015-04-08 14:03 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-04-04 2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] xen: libxc: libxl: report per-CPU cache occupancy up to libxl Dario Faggioli
2015-04-04 2:14 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] xen: libxc: libxl: allow for attaching and detaching a CPU to CMT Dario Faggioli
2015-04-04 2:15 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] xl: report per-CPU cache occupancy up to libxl Dario Faggioli
2015-04-04 2:15 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] xl: allow for attaching and detaching a CPU to CMT Dario Faggioli
2015-04-07 8:19 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Intel Cache Monitoring: Current Status and Future Opportunities Chao Peng
2015-04-07 9:51 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-04-07 10:27 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-04-07 13:10 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-04-08 5:59 ` Chao Peng
2015-04-08 8:23 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-04-08 8:53 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-04-08 8:55 ` Chao Peng
2015-04-09 15:44 ` Meng Xu
2015-04-08 11:27 ` George Dunlap
2015-04-08 13:29 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-04-08 11:30 ` George Dunlap
2015-04-08 13:16 ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2015-04-09 15:37 ` Meng Xu
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