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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Jouni Malinen <j@w1.fi>
Cc: "Peer, Ilan" <ilan.peer@intel.com>,
	Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mac80211_hwsim: Set VHT capabilities only for the 5.2 GHz band
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 12:39:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1428662388.1890.8.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150409073525.GA21000@w1.fi> (sfid-20150409_093533_890772_95B767FD)

On Thu, 2015-04-09 at 10:35 +0300, Jouni Malinen wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 06:29:38PM +0000, Peer, Ilan wrote:
> > According to the 802.11ac amendment: "The IEEE 802.11 VHT STA operates in frequency bands below 6 GHz excluding the 2.4 GHz band", so at least the spec. is clear about it. However, I guess it would be possible to enable VHT for 2.4 as well to enjoy some of benefits, but do you see a reason/use case to enable it also for hwsim?
> 
> It does not matter what the standard says on VHT in general; there are
> clearly already products out there that allow some capabilities defined
> in 802.11ac (mainly, 256-QAM) to be used on the 2.4 GHz band.

Sure.

> As far as
> hwsim is concerned, I'm already using it to verify the negotiation part
> for this (see ap_vht_on_24ghz test case).

Oh, I guess I can't apply this patch then. But perhaps we should make
this an optional capability so we can create a new virtual radio
with/without it.

> The main remaining question
> for cfg80211/nl80211 is on whether we can come up with a clean way of
> advertising driver capability for doing this.

I'm not even sure what the question really is. Really you want just high
MCSes, but what should happen OTA? Is interoperability even *desired*,
given that it will never be tested?

johannes


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-10 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-07 16:05 [PATCH 1/2] mac80211_hwsim: Set VHT capabilities only for the 5.2 GHz band Ilan Peer
2015-04-07 16:05 ` [PATCH 2/2] mac80211_hwsim: Fix the supported VHT mcs rates Ilan Peer
2015-04-07 16:08 ` [PATCH 1/2] mac80211_hwsim: Set VHT capabilities only for the 5.2 GHz band Ben Greear
2015-04-08 18:29   ` Peer, Ilan
2015-04-08 18:41     ` Johannes Berg
2015-04-08 18:41     ` Ben Greear
2015-04-09  7:35     ` Jouni Malinen
2015-04-09 11:01       ` Krishna Chaitanya
2015-04-10 10:39       ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2015-04-10 14:16         ` Jouni Malinen
2015-05-06 12:53 ` Johannes Berg

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