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From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Feng Wu <feng.wu@intel.com>,
	"andrew.cooper3@citrix.com" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	Yang Z Zhang <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>,
	"keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [v3 14/15] Update Posted-Interrupts Descriptor during vCPU scheduling
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 16:47:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1436453223.22672.346.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <559E84EF.7060507@eu.citrix.com>


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On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 15:27 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
> On 07/09/2015 03:18 PM, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> > On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 14:44 +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>>>> On 09.07.15 at 14:53, <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>> Consider the following scenario:
> >>> - v1 blocks on pcpu 0.
> >>>  - vcpu_runstate_change() will do everything necessary for v1 on p0.
> >>> - The scheduler does load balancing and moves v1 to p1, calling
> >>> vcpu_migrate().  Because the vcpu is still blocked,
> >>> vcpu_runstate_change() is not called.
> >>> - A device interrupt is generated.
> >>>
> >>> What happens to the interrupt?  Does everything still work properly, or
> >>> will the device wake-up interrupt go to the wrong pcpu (p0 rather than p1)?
> >>
> >> I think much of this was discussed before, since I also disliked the
> >> hooking into vcpu_runstate_change(). What I remember having
> >> been told is that it really only matters which pCPU's list a vCPU is
> >> on, not what v->processor says. 
> >>
> > Right.
> > 
> > But, as far as I could understand from the patches I've seen, a vcpu
> > ends up in a list when it blocks, and when it blocks there will be a
> > context switch, and hence we can deal with the queueing during the the
> > context switch itself (which is, in part, an arch specific operation
> > already).
> > 
> > What am I missing?
> 
> I think what you're missing is that Jan is answering my question about
> migrating a blocked vcpu, not arguing that vcpu_runstate_change() is the
> right way to go.  At least that's how I understood him. :-)
> 
Eheh, no, I got that... I just wanted to take one more chance to try to
get an answer (from Feng, mainly, but from anyone who knows or has an
idea, in reality! :-D) on why another approach is not possible.

Sorry for abusing the reply for my own mean purposes. :-D

> But regarding context_switch: I think the reason we need more hooks than
> that is that context_switch only changes into and out of running state.
>
Sure.

> There are also changes that need to happen when you change from blocked
> to offline, offline to blocked, blocked to runnable, &c; these don't go
> through context_switch.  
>
Right, those ones. And about them, I could say for the third time that
having a non-runstate biased description of what we need would help to
understand where to do things, whether there are suitable spots already
or we need to add new ones, etc.... But I guess I don't want to be so
repetitive! :-PP

> That's why I was suggesting some architectural
> equivalents to the SCHED_OP() callbacks to be added to vcpu_wake &c.
> 
Yep. If (or at least for those of which) really there is no other place
already, adding these would be TheRightThing for me as well.

> vcpu_runstate_change() is at the moment a nice quiet cul-de-sac that
> just does a little bit of accounting; 
>
Indeed!

> I'd rather not have it suddenly
> become a major thoroughfare for runstate change hooks, if we can avoid
> it. :-)
> 
Yep, that was my understanding of it, and my idea too.

Regards,
Dario
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Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-24  5:18 [v3 00/15] Add VT-d Posted-Interrupts support Feng Wu
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 01/15] Vt-d Posted-intterrupt (PI) design Feng Wu
2015-06-24  6:15   ` Meng Xu
2015-06-24  6:19     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:21   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08  7:29     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 02/15] Add helper macro for X86_FEATURE_CX16 feature detection Feng Wu
2015-06-24 17:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:23   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 03/15] Add cmpxchg16b support for x86-64 Feng Wu
2015-06-24 18:35   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:06     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:12       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08  8:33         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:43           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08  8:50             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:50         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-10 12:57   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 04/15] iommu: Add iommu_intpost to control VT-d Posted-Interrupts feature Feng Wu
2015-06-25  9:06   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25  9:47     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-25 10:16       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25 12:47         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:30   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 05/15] vt-d: VT-d Posted-Interrupts feature detection Feng Wu
2015-06-25 10:21   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25 13:02     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:32   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08  8:00     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 06/15] vmx: Extend struct pi_desc to support VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 13:08   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  2:40     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:20       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:26         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:36           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:43             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  9:28               ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  9:30                 ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  3:13     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 07/15] vmx: Initialize VT-d Posted-Interrupts Descriptor Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:32   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:46     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-30  2:32     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-08  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 08/15] Suppress posting interrupts when 'SN' is set Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:41   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:48     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  9:06   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:11     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:31       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:58         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10 13:20   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 09/15] vt-d: Extend struct iremap_entry to support VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:52     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  9:10   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 13:27   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 10/15] vt-d: Add API to update IRTE when VT-d PI is used Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:22   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  9:59   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:12     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10 14:01   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  6:04     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:24       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:38         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:46           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:55             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  9:32               ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 11/15] Update IRTE according to guest interrupt config changes Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 10:22   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:31     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:46       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:52         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:54           ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:23   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 12/15] vmx: posted-interrupt handling when vCPU is blocked Feng Wu
2015-06-29 17:07   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 10:36     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 10:48       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <559181F9.6020106@citrix.com>
2015-06-30  2:51     ` Fwd: " Dario Faggioli
2015-06-30  2:59       ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-30  9:46         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-06-30 10:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 13:26     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  4:27       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  8:30         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  8:58           ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 10:09             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 10:41               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 10:30           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-02 10:56             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 12:04             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 12:10               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 12:16               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-02 12:38                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 12:59                   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-03  1:33                     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  4:25     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:02     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 12:46     ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08 13:09       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 22:49         ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-09  7:25           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  6:21             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  6:32               ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  7:29                 ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  8:49                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  8:57                     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 22:31       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 13/15] vmx: Properly handle notification event when vCPU is running Feng Wu
2015-07-08 11:03   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:40   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 14/15] Update Posted-Interrupts Descriptor during vCPU scheduling Feng Wu
     [not found]   ` <55918214.4030102@citrix.com>
2015-06-30  2:58     ` Fwd: " Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  4:32       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  4:34         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  8:20         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09  3:09           ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-09  8:18             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09 11:19             ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 11:29               ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 11:38               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-09 12:42                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10  0:07                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10 12:40                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10 13:47                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-10 13:59                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09 12:53                 ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 13:44                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-09 14:18                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09 14:27                       ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 14:47                         ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2015-07-10  5:59                         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  6:22                           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10 11:05                             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-14  5:44                               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-14 14:08                               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-14 14:54                                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-14 15:20                                   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-14 16:41                                     ` George Dunlap
2015-07-14 16:02                                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-15  0:54                                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-17  7:46                                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-17 10:13                                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-17 22:57                                       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-18 13:43                                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10  0:15                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:24   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:48   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 15/15] Add a command line parameter for VT-d posted-interrupts Feng Wu
2015-07-08 11:25   ` Tian, Kevin

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