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From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>
To: Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
Cc: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	mingo@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] sched: let __sched_period() use rq's nr_running
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 14:30:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1436790638.6576.190.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150713110746.GK31287@byungchulpark-X58A-UD3R>

On Mon, 2015-07-13 at 20:07 +0900, Byungchul Park wrote:

> i still think stretching with local cfs's nr_running should be replaced with
> stretching with a top(=root) level one.

I think we just can't take 'slice' _too_ seriously.  Not only is it
annoying with cgroups, the scheduler simply doesn't deliver 'slices' in
the traditional sense, it equalizes vruntimes, planning to do that at
slice granularity.  FAIR_SLEEPERS doesn't make that planning any easier.
With a pure compute load and no HR_TICK, what you get is tick
granularity preemption checkpoints, but having just chewed up a 'slice'
means nothing if you're still leftmost.  It's all about vruntime, so
leftmost can have back to back 'slices'.  FAIR_SLEEPERS just increases
the odds that leftmost WILL take more than one 'slice'.

(we could perhaps decay deficit after a full slice or such to decrease
the spread growth that sleepers induce. annoying problem, especially so
with a gaggle of identical sleepers, as sleep time becomes meaningless,
there is no differential to equalize.. other than the ones we create..
but I'm digressing, a lot, time to stop thinking/typing, go do work;)

	-Mike



  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-13 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-10  8:11 [PATCH v2] sched: let __sched_period() use rq's nr_running byungchul.park
2015-07-10 13:31 ` Morten Rasmussen
2015-07-13  0:56   ` Byungchul Park
2015-07-13  7:07     ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-13  8:29       ` Byungchul Park
2015-07-13 10:22         ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-13 11:07           ` Byungchul Park
2015-07-13 12:30             ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2015-07-14  2:07               ` Byungchul Park
2015-07-14  2:30                 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-07-13  8:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-13  9:25   ` Byungchul Park
2015-07-14  2:26     ` Byungchul Park
2015-07-14  9:26 ` Byungchul Park

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