Developing Desktop Window Integration

Developing Desktop Window Integration

[hanji unit]

Hello, I am planning to develop inter-domain graphical window
forwarding, as it is a critical piece of Xen that is missing, that
other Hypervisors have (such as VMWare Unity Mode and VirtualBox
Seamless Mode). Searching around on the internet, I see that there is
no current support for such a feature in Xen, although many have
requested it.

I will be at XenSummit in Seattle later this month. If anyone is
interested in meeting to give their input/sub-features
requests/advice, please email me privately and we can set up a time to
meet at the convention.

Thanks.

Re: Developing Desktop Window Integration

[Wei Liu]

On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 12:19:13PM -0400, hanji unit wrote:
> Hello, I am planning to develop inter-domain graphical window
> forwarding, as it is a critical piece of Xen that is missing, that
> other Hypervisors have (such as VMWare Unity Mode and VirtualBox
> Seamless Mode). Searching around on the internet, I see that there is
> no current support for such a feature in Xen, although many have
> requested it.
> 
> I will be at XenSummit in Seattle later this month. If anyone is
> interested in meeting to give their input/sub-features
> requests/advice, please email me privately and we can set up a time to
> meet at the convention.
> 

I have no idea what it takes to implement such feature, but I know Qubes
OS always has similar feature. You may be able to use some of their
infrastructure?

Wei.

> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Developing Desktop Window Integration

[hanji unit]

I have started looking at what would be required. It looks like a full
graphical stack implementation, including userland, kernelmode, and
possibly even VGA device code. For these reasons, I think it will be a
large undertaking and want to discuss with the community.

I think some of what Qubes did here is closed source.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 12:19:13PM -0400, hanji unit wrote:
>> Hello, I am planning to develop inter-domain graphical window
>> forwarding, as it is a critical piece of Xen that is missing, that
>> other Hypervisors have (such as VMWare Unity Mode and VirtualBox
>> Seamless Mode). Searching around on the internet, I see that there is
>> no current support for such a feature in Xen, although many have
>> requested it.
>>
>> I will be at XenSummit in Seattle later this month. If anyone is
>> interested in meeting to give their input/sub-features
>> requests/advice, please email me privately and we can set up a time to
>> meet at the convention.
>>
>
> I have no idea what it takes to implement such feature, but I know Qubes
> OS always has similar feature. You may be able to use some of their
> infrastructure?
>
> Wei.
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Xen-devel mailing list
>> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
>> http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel

Re: Developing Desktop Window Integration

[Dario Faggioli]

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On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 12:55 -0400, hanji unit wrote:
> I have started looking at what would be required. It looks like a full
> graphical stack implementation, including userland, kernelmode, and
> possibly even VGA device code. For these reasons, I think it will be a
> large undertaking and want to discuss with the community.
> 
> I think some of what Qubes did here is closed source.
> 
I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it is.

Actually, I don't think it could possibly be, if only, for licences
issues. In fact, Quebs people modified KDE and XFCE, and are
redistributing those changes in their product/project, available for
download to everyone.

As per my understanding of GPL and of other OS licenses, this, in many
cases, mean calls for the modified sources to be available, and, as a
matter of fact, I think they are. *I think* that some of the work
they've done on Windows is closed, but I'm quite sure their
modifications to Xen, Linux, and to the various bits and pieces of X
server, display managers and desktop environments are all public.

I may be wrong, but I'd at least have a look, if I were you. :-)

Regards,
Dario
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