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From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2] memory-barriers: remove smp_mb__after_unlock_lock()
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:06:11 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1440561971.20743.2.camel@ellerman.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150826002744.GA11078@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 17:27 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 04:56:04PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:45:05AM +0100, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 09:37 +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, that sounds great. FWIW, there are multiple ways of implementing
> > > > the patch (i.e. whether you strengthen lock or unlock). I had a crack at
> > > > something here, but it's not tested:
> > > > 
> > > >   http://marc.info/?l=linux-arch&m=143758379023849&w=2
> > > 
> > > I notice you are not changing PPC_RELEASE_BARRIER, but only the spin unlock
> > > code. But from my reading of the docs we need to make sure any UNLOCK+LOCK is a
> > > full barrier, not just spin unlock/lock?
> > > 
> > > So don't we need to worry about some of the other locks as well? At least
> > > rwlock, and mutex fast path?
> > 
> > Hmm, that's a good question. I notice that you don't do any of the SYNC_IO
> > stuff for any locks other than spinlocks but I don't know whether
> > smp_mb__after_unlock_lock is similarly limited in scope.
> > 
> > Paul?
> 
> I would expect the various locks to have similar ordering characteristics.
> 
> Or am I missing something subtle here?

I don't think so.

The docs just talk about ACQUIRE/RELEASE, so I think it needs to apply to all
lock types. Or at least the list mentioned in the docs which is:

 (*) spin locks
 (*) R/W spin locks
 (*) mutexes
 (*) semaphores
 (*) R/W semaphores
 (*) RCU

cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-26  4:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-13 12:15 [RFC PATCH v2] memory-barriers: remove smp_mb__after_unlock_lock() Will Deacon
2015-07-13 13:09 ` Peter Hurley
2015-07-13 14:24   ` Will Deacon
2015-07-13 15:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-13 13:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-13 14:09   ` Will Deacon
2015-07-13 14:21     ` Will Deacon
2015-07-13 15:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-13 17:50         ` Will Deacon
2015-07-13 20:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-13 22:23             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-13 23:04               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-14 10:04                 ` Will Deacon
2015-07-14 12:45                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-14 12:51                     ` Will Deacon
2015-07-14 14:00                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-14 14:12                         ` Will Deacon
2015-07-14 19:31                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-15  1:38                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-15 10:51                               ` Will Deacon
2015-07-15 13:12                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-24 11:31                                   ` Will Deacon
2015-07-24 15:30                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-08-12 13:44                                       ` Will Deacon
2015-08-12 15:43                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-08-12 17:59                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-08-13 10:49                                             ` Will Deacon
2015-08-13 13:10                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-08-17  4:06                                           ` Michael Ellerman
2015-08-17  6:15                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-08-17  8:57                                               ` Will Deacon
2015-08-18  1:50                                                 ` Michael Ellerman
2015-08-18  8:37                                                   ` Will Deacon
2015-08-20  9:45                                                     ` Michael Ellerman
2015-08-20 15:56                                                       ` Will Deacon
2015-08-26  0:27                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-08-26  4:06                                                           ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2015-07-13 18:23         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-13 19:41           ` Peter Hurley
2015-07-13 20:16             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-13 22:15               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-13 22:43                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-14  8:34                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-13 22:53                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-13 22:37         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-13 22:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-14 10:16   ` Will Deacon
2015-07-15  3:06   ` Michael Ellerman
2015-07-15 10:44     ` Will Deacon
2015-07-16  2:00       ` Michael Ellerman
2015-07-16  5:03         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-16  5:14           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-16 15:11             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-16 22:54               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-17  9:32                 ` Will Deacon
2015-07-17 10:15                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 12:40                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-17 22:14                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-20 13:39                     ` Will Deacon
2015-07-20 13:48                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-20 13:56                         ` Will Deacon
2015-07-20 21:18                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-07-22 16:49                         ` Will Deacon
2015-07-22 16:49                           ` Will Deacon
2015-07-22 16:49                           ` Will Deacon
2015-09-01  2:57             ` Paul Mackerras
2015-07-15 14:18     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-16  1:34       ` Michael Ellerman

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