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From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@citrix.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Keir Fraser <keir@xen.org>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>, "Wu, Feng" <feng.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 15/17] vmx: VT-d posted-interrupt core logic handling
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 18:36:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1442507783.15327.135.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55FACE83.6050607@citrix.com>


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On Thu, 2015-09-17 at 15:30 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
> On 09/17/2015 01:40 PM, Dario Faggioli wrote:

> >> I haven't yet decided whether I prefer my original suggestion of
> >> switching the interrupt and putting things on the wake-up list in
> >> vcpu_block(), or of deferring adding things to the wake-up list until
> >> the actual context switch.
> >>
> > Sorry but I don't get what you mean with the latter.
> > 
> > I particular, I don't think I understand what you mean with and how it
> > would work to "defer[ring] adding things to the wake-up list until
> > actual context switch"... In what case would you defer stuff to context
> > switch?
> 
> So one option is to do the "blocking" stuff in an arch-specific call
> from vcpu_block():
> 
> vcpu_block()
>  set(_VPF_blocked)
>  v->arch.block()
>   - Add v to pcpu.pi_blocked_vcpu
>   - NV => pi_wakeup_vector
>  local_events_need_delivery()
>    hvm_vcpu_has_pending_irq()
> 
>  ...
>  context_switch(): nothing
> 
> The other is to do the "blocking" stuff in the context switch (similar
> to what's done now):
> 
> vcpu_block()
>   set(_VPF_blocked)
>   local_events_need_delivery()
>     hvm_vcpu_has_pending_irq()
>   ...
> context_switch
>    v->arch.block()
>     - Add v to pcpu.pi_blocked_vcpu
>     - NV => pi_wakeup_vector
> 
Ok, thanks for elaborating.

> If we do it the first way, and an interrupt comes in before the context
> switch is finished, it will call pi_wakeup_vector, which will DTRT --
> take v off the pi_blocked_vcpu list and call vcpu_unblock() (which in
> turn will set NV back to posted_intr_vector).
> 
> If we do it the second way, and an interrupt comes in before the context
> switch is finished, it will call posted_intr_vector.  We can, at that
> point, check to see if the current vcpu is marked as blocked.  If it is,
> we can call vcpu_unblock() without having to modify NV or worry about
> adding / removing the vcpu from the pi_blocked_vcpu list.
> 
Right.

> The thing I like about the first one is that it makes PI blocking the
> same as normal blocking -- everything happens in the same place; so the
> code is cleaner and easier to understand.
> 
Indeed.

> The thing I like about the second one is that it cleverly avoids having
> to do all the work of adding the vcpu to the list and then searching to
> remove it if the vcpu in question gets woken up on the way to being
> blocked.  So the code may end up being faster for workloads where that
> happens frequently.
> 
Maybe some instrumentation to figure out how frequent this is, at least
in a couple of (thought to be) common workloads can be added, and a few
test performed? Feng?

One thing that may be worth giving some thinking at is whether
interrupts are enabled or not. I mean, during vcpu_block()
SCHEDULE_SOFTIRQ is raised, for invoking the scheduler. Then (at least)
during schedule(), IRQs are disabled. They're re-enabled near the end of
schedule(), and re-disabled for the actual context switch ( ~= around
__context_switch()).

My point being that IRQs are going to be disabled for a significant
amount of time, between vcpu_block() and the actual context being
switched. And solution 2 requires IRQs to be enabled in order to avoid a
potentially pointless NV update, doesn't it? If yes, that may
(negatively) affect the probability of being able to actually benefit
from the optimization...

Anyway, I'm not sure. I think my gut feelings are in favour of solution
1, but, really, it's hard to tell without actually trying. 

Regards,
Dario
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-17 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-11  8:28 [PATCH v7 00/17] Add VT-d Posted-Interrupts support Feng Wu
2015-09-11  8:28 ` [PATCH v7 01/17] VT-d Posted-intterrupt (PI) design Feng Wu
2015-09-11  8:28 ` [PATCH v7 02/17] Add cmpxchg16b support for x86-64 Feng Wu
2015-09-22 13:50   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-22 13:55     ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-11  8:28 ` [PATCH v7 03/17] iommu: Add iommu_intpost to control VT-d Posted-Interrupts feature Feng Wu
2015-09-11  8:28 ` [PATCH v7 04/17] vt-d: VT-d Posted-Interrupts feature detection Feng Wu
2015-09-22 14:18   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11  8:28 ` [PATCH v7 05/17] vmx: Extend struct pi_desc to support VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2015-09-22 14:20   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-23  1:02     ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-23  7:36       ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11  8:28 ` [PATCH v7 06/17] vmx: Add some helper functions for Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2015-09-11  8:28 ` [PATCH v7 07/17] vmx: Initialize VT-d Posted-Interrupts Descriptor Feng Wu
2015-09-11  8:28 ` [PATCH v7 08/17] vmx: Suppress posting interrupts when 'SN' is set Feng Wu
2015-09-22 14:23   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11  8:28 ` [PATCH v7 09/17] VT-d: Remove pointless casts Feng Wu
2015-09-22 14:30   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11  8:28 ` [PATCH v7 10/17] vt-d: Extend struct iremap_entry to support VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2015-09-22 14:28   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11  8:29 ` [PATCH v7 11/17] vt-d: Add API to update IRTE when VT-d PI is used Feng Wu
2015-09-22 14:42   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11  8:29 ` [PATCH v7 12/17] x86: move some APIC related macros to apicdef.h Feng Wu
2015-09-22 14:44   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11  8:29 ` [PATCH v7 13/17] Update IRTE according to guest interrupt config changes Feng Wu
2015-09-22 14:51   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11  8:29 ` [PATCH v7 14/17] vmx: Properly handle notification event when vCPU is running Feng Wu
2015-09-11  8:29 ` [PATCH v7 15/17] vmx: VT-d posted-interrupt core logic handling Feng Wu
2015-09-16 16:00   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-16 17:18   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-16 18:05     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-17  8:00     ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-17  8:48       ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-17  9:16         ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-17  9:38         ` George Dunlap
2015-09-17  9:39           ` George Dunlap
2015-09-17 11:44           ` George Dunlap
2015-09-17 12:40             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-17 14:30               ` George Dunlap
2015-09-17 16:36                 ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2015-09-18  6:27                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-18  9:22                   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-18 14:31                     ` George Dunlap
2015-09-18 14:34                       ` George Dunlap
2015-09-11  8:29 ` [PATCH v7 16/17] VT-d: Dump the posted format IRTE Feng Wu
2015-09-22 14:58   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11  8:29 ` [PATCH v7 17/17] Add a command line parameter for VT-d posted-interrupts Feng Wu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-09-21  5:08 [PATCH v7 15/17] vmx: VT-d posted-interrupt core logic handling Wu, Feng
2015-09-21  9:18 ` George Dunlap
2015-09-21 11:59   ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-21 13:31     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-21 13:50       ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-21 14:11         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-22  5:10           ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-22 10:43             ` George Dunlap
2015-09-22 10:46               ` George Dunlap
2015-09-22 13:25                 ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-22 13:40                   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-22 13:52                     ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-22 14:15                       ` George Dunlap
2015-09-22 14:38                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-23  5:52                           ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-23  7:59                             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-23  8:11                               ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-22 14:28                   ` George Dunlap
2015-09-23  5:37                     ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-21  5:09 Wu, Feng
2015-09-21  9:54 ` George Dunlap
2015-09-21 12:22   ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-21 14:24     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-22  7:19       ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-22  8:59         ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-22 13:40           ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-22 14:01             ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-23  9:44               ` George Dunlap
2015-09-23 12:35                 ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-23 15:25                   ` George Dunlap
2015-09-23 15:38                     ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-24  1:50                     ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-24  3:35                       ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-24  7:51                       ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-24  8:03                         ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-22 10:26         ` George Dunlap
2015-09-23  6:35           ` Wu, Feng
2015-09-23  7:11             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-09-23  7:20               ` Wu, Feng

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