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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Zhigang Wang <zhigang.x.wang@oracle.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>, Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tools: remove unused wrappers for python
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 16:45:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1444146359.5302.227.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5613E918.4020509@oracle.com>

On Tue, 2015-10-06 at 11:30 -0400, Zhigang Wang wrote:
> On 10/06/2015 11:26 AM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Tue, 2015-10-06 at 17:21 +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
> > > On 10/06/2015 05:11 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2015-10-06 at 16:51 +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
> > > > > On 10/06/2015 03:40 PM, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 2015-10-06 at 12:39 +0100, Wei Liu wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And for the record, if my google-fu doesn't fail me, it's
> > > > > > > possible to
> > > > > > > load shared library into python interpreter using "dl" module
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > 2.7
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > "ctypes" module in 3.x.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Possible, but not especially convenient since you need to
> > > > > > convert
> > > > > > the C
> > > > > > prototype manually, plus the result is not necessarily very
> > > > > > "pythonic".
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I could totally see why people would prefer these bindings (or
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > argument
> > > > > > for us providing a ctypes based wrapper).
> > > > > 
> > > > > How often is such a debugging interface being used? Please
> > > > > consider
> > > > > the amount of code (my patch removed nearly 3000 lines of code!)
> > > > > and
> > > > > the availability of the xl wrapper.
> > > > 
> > > > My understanding was that this was used by the "xen-bugtool" stuff
> > > > in
> > > > XenServer, so for actual functionality (gathering debug info) and
> > > > not
> > > > debugging (I supposed that the reference to being used for
> > > > debugging was
> > > > due to the name of the tool).
> > > 
> > > And this functionality isn't available via the xl bindings?
> > 
> > I don't know, we'll have to wait for those who are using it to chime
> > in.
> > 
> > Ian.
> 
> IanC: I remember you said xl bindings has some design issue and should 
> not be used. Is it still the case today?

Yes.

Sorry, I read Juergen's original "via the xl bindings" as "via libxl", i.e.
by using the library directly and forgot about the need for python bindings
.

Ian.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-06 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-06 10:46 [PATCH] tools: remove unused wrappers for python Juergen Gross
2015-10-06 11:18 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-06 11:33   ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-06 11:39     ` Wei Liu
2015-10-06 13:40       ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-06 14:51         ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-06 15:11           ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-06 15:21             ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-06 15:26               ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-06 15:30                 ` Zhigang Wang
2015-10-06 15:45                   ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2015-10-06 16:14                     ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-06 16:24                       ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-08  1:10                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-10-08  4:16                           ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-08 14:30                             ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-06 15:38                 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-06 16:31                   ` Wei Liu
2015-10-06 16:38                     ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-06 16:42                       ` Wei Liu
2015-10-06 15:24           ` Zhigang Wang
2015-10-08 14:38             ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-08 15:09               ` Zhigang Wang
2015-10-08 15:27                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-08 16:32                   ` Zhigang Wang
2015-10-08 16:58                     ` Wei Liu
2015-10-09  4:42                     ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-09  9:43                       ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-09 10:16                         ` Juergen Gross
2015-10-09 13:29                       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-10-07  2:58   ` Marek Marczykowski-Górecki

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