From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Doug Goldstein <cardoe@cardoe.com>, xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: Critique of the Xen Security Process
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:43:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1447235005.8556.8.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564114BA.8060206@cardoe.com>
On Mon, 2015-11-09 at 15:48 -0600, Doug Goldstein wrote:
>
> I'll echo this sentiment as well. Most distro packagers will dislike
> this and need to work around some of this behavior in their respective
> distros.
This is something we have been working upstream to address as well. As it
stands I believe everything which the tools might download can be
redirected to instead an existing component (via one of the --with-system-
foo configuration options) or disabled (via a --disable-foo configure
option). So I think now the current state is that there aren't
"workarounds" but rather "supported ways to disable".
The big outstanding issue is the stubdom build, the distro I care about
most (Debian) simply doesn't build these (for reasons above and beyond the
downloading).
> Project Raisin is aiming to help with this
Indeed, and it might also allow us to make some of the above options the
default in the future.
Maybe in the meantime perhaps a ./configure --ensure-offline or --disable-
downloads which:
* either disables stubdoms automatically or checks you've passed --
disable-stubdom as well
* either disables all the other things which might be cloned or requires
the corresponding --with-system-foo=, or has a guess at a default system
version
* sets FETCHER to /bin/false
would be useful? (essentially as a guard against new options being required
to turn stuff off).
> but it doesn't seem
> to have a lot of community effort behind it and it too attempts to
> install dependencies on my machine and wants to be run with sudo.
I believe it has a mode where it simply checks for dependencies and tells
you what is required and thereby avoids the need for sudo, but I'm not
sure.
Ian.
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-06 17:22 Critique of the Xen Security Process Joanna Rutkowska
2015-11-06 19:41 ` James Bulpin
2015-11-06 22:42 ` Low Eel
2015-11-07 16:51 ` w.peter.howell
2015-11-09 12:11 ` Jan Beulich
2015-11-09 16:31 ` [qubes-devel] " Franz
2015-11-09 18:15 ` Wojtek Porczyk
2015-11-10 13:09 ` Lars Kurth
2015-11-10 14:10 ` Franz
2015-11-10 10:52 ` Lars Kurth
2015-11-11 11:36 ` Chris Laprise
2015-11-11 15:24 ` Lars Kurth
2015-11-09 21:48 ` Doug Goldstein
2015-11-11 9:43 ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2015-11-11 9:59 ` Lars Kurth
2015-11-11 17:21 ` Lars Kurth
2015-11-11 12:33 ` Raisin, was " Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-11 16:24 ` Doug Goldstein
2015-11-11 17:40 ` George Dunlap
2015-11-11 17:49 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-11 12:34 ` Wei Liu
2015-11-09 22:00 ` chris
2015-11-10 2:46 ` [qubes-devel] " Radoslaw Szkodzinski
2015-11-11 20:14 ` chris
2015-11-11 12:59 ` Stefano Stabellini
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