From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [Minios-devel] [PATCH v4 0/<VARIOUS>] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 09:44:36 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1449135876.4424.115.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1511191534450.1107@kaball.uk.xensource.com>
On Thu, 2015-11-19 at 16:20 +0000, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
(Backing up this thread a bit).
> > It seems like much of this would be candidates for adding to
> > libxendevicemodel, but the underlying unstable interfaces pose a problem
> > there. I'm going to leave this for another day.
>
> Does the Xen<->libxc interface need to be stable for libxendevicemodel
> to have a stable ABI?
> I think that libxendevicemodel could be stable, no matter what hypercall
> is eventually called underneath. Am I missing something?
I remember this morning why this matters, it's not the user space library
ABI etc, but rather that if we want libxendevicemodel to be able to lock
its fd to a specific domain (which we eventually do) then the kernel driver
needs to be able to introspect the privcmd hypercalls[0] so the underlying
hypercall does really need to be stable (since we don't want to be
constantly reving the kernel driver when something changes).
Given a stable hypercall interface underneath given the wrapping library a
stable ABI is a no brainer.
Ian.
[0] or to provide a dedicate ioctl or something, either way it is the
kernel which needs to be providing the lockdown functionality.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-03 9:44 UTC|newest]
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2015-10-21 15:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 0/<VARIOUS>] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:22 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 00/23] " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 01/23] tools/Rules.mk: Properly handle libraries with recursive dependencies Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:27 ` Wei Liu
2015-11-02 14:20 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 02/23] tools: Refactor "xentoollog" into its own library Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:27 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 03/23] tools/libxc: Remove osdep indirection for xc_evtchn Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:27 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 04/23] tools: Refactor /dev/xen/evtchn wrappers into libxenevtchn Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:27 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 05/23] tools: Arrange to check public headers for ANSI compatiblity Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:27 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 06/23] tools/libxc: Remove osdep indirection for xc_gnt{shr, tab} Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 07/23] tools: Refactor /dev/xen/gnt{dev, shr} wrappers into libxengnttab Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-11-04 16:08 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 08/23] tools/libxc: Remove osdep indirection for privcmd Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 09/23] tools: Refactor hypercall calling wrappers into libxencall Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 10/23] tools/libxc: drop xc_map_foreign_bulk_compat wrappers Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 11/23] tools: Remove xc_map_foreign_batch Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 12/23] tools: Implement xc_map_foreign_range(s) in terms of common helper Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 13/23] tools: Refactor foreign memory mapping into libxenforeignmemory Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 14/23] tools: foreignmemory: provide xenforeignmemory_unmap Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 15/23] foreignmemory: use size_t for size arguments Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 16/23] tools/libs/evtchn: Review and update doc comments Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 17/23] tools/libs: Clean up hard tabs Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:28 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 18/23] tools/libs/gnttab: Review and update doc comments Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:29 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 19/23] tools/libs/call: Update some log messages to not refer to xc Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:29 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 20/23] tools/libs/call: Avoid xc_memalign in netbsd and solaris backends Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:29 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 21/23] tools/libs/foreignmemory: Mention restrictions on fork in docs Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:29 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 22/23] tools: Update CFLAGS for qemu-xen to allow it to use new libraries Ian Campbell
2015-10-29 16:29 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [PATCH XEN v4 23/23] HACK: Update Config.mk to pull all the right bits from my xenbits trees Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 0/9] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 1/9] xen_console: correctly cleanup primary console on teardown Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-22 16:46 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-22 16:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 2/9] xen: Switch to libxenevtchn interface for compat shims Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:06 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-23 11:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 3/9] xen: Switch to libxengnttab " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-23 11:15 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:15 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 12:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 12:42 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:06 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 4/9] xen: Switch uses of xc_map_foreign_range into xc_map_foreign_bulk Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:07 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-23 11:07 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-21 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 5/9] xen: Switch uses of xc_map_foreign_pages " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 6/9] xen: Switch uses of xc_map_foreign_bulk to use libxenforeignmemory API Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-23 11:06 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 7/9] xen: Use stable library interfaces when they are available Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:31 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-23 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-23 12:25 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 12:25 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 8/9] xen: domainbuild: reopen libxenctrl interface after forking for domain watcher Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH QEMU-XEN v4 9/9] xen: make it possible to build without the Xen PV domain builder Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-22 11:07 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-22 11:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:12 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-23 11:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-23 11:19 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:35 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-23 12:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 12:23 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-23 11:35 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 0/5] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 1/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Use xentoollog as a separate library Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 2/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Use libxenevtchn Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 3/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Use libxengnttab Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 4/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Add libxencall to rpath-link Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH QEMU-XEN-TRADITIONAL v4 5/5] qemu-xen-traditional: Add libxenforeignmemory " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 0/5] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 1/5] mini-os: Include libxentoollog with libxc Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 2/5] mini-os: Include libxenevtchn " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 3/5] mini-os: Include libxengnttab " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 4/5] mini-os: Include libxencall " Ian Campbell
2015-10-21 15:24 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 5/5] mini-os: Include libxenforeignmemory " Ian Campbell
2015-10-22 20:42 ` [PATCH MINI-OS v4 0/5] Begin to disentangle libxenctrl and provide some stable libraries Samuel Thibault
2015-10-23 9:43 ` Ian Campbell
2015-10-26 14:43 ` Wei Liu
2015-10-21 15:47 ` [Minios-devel] [PATCH v4 0/<VARIOUS>] " Ian Campbell
2015-11-09 12:02 ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-19 16:20 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-19 17:01 ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-20 11:07 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-20 11:24 ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-20 14:11 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-20 11:38 ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-20 11:40 ` Ian Campbell
2015-11-20 13:49 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-11-23 12:49 ` Ian Campbell
2015-12-03 9:44 ` Ian Campbell [this message]
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2015-11-09 11:59 Ian Campbell
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