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From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
To: "Johannes Berg" <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	"João Paulo Rechi Vita" <jprvita@gmail.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux@endlessm.com,
	"João Paulo Rechi Vita" <jprvita@endlessm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/9] rfkill: Userspace control for airplane mode
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:53:25 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1455123205.19821.34.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1455120444.4991.1.camel@sipsolutions.net>

On Wed, 2016-02-10 at 17:07 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-02-08 at 10:11 -0600, Dan Williams wrote:
> > I'd like to clarify a bit, so tell me if I'm correct or not.  Using
> > RFKILL_OP_AIRPLANE_MODE_CHANGE does not actually change any device
> > state. It's just an indicator with no relationship to any of the
> > registered rfkill switches, right?
> 
> Yes. I'm not sure I'm totally happy with this userspace API.
> 
> > I wonder if setting RFKILL_OP_AIRPLANE_MODE_CHANGE(true) shouldn't
> > also
> > softblock all switches, otherwise you can set airplane mode all day
> > long with RFKILL_OP_AIRPLANE_MODE_CHANGE and it doesn't actually
> > enable
> > airplane mode at all?
> 
> No, this is kinda the point that you could implement your policy in
> userspace now.

Yeah, I get that now.  It's just that to me, something called
"AIRPLANE_MODE_CHANGE" seems like it should actually change airplane
mode on/off, which implies killing radios.  I wouldn't have had the
problem if it was named AIRPLANE_MODE_INDICATOR_CHANGE, which makes it
clear this is simply an indicator and has no actual effect on anything
other than a LED.

Dan

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-10 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-08 15:41 [PATCH 0/9] RFKill airplane-mode indicator João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 1/9] rfkill: Improve documentation language João Paulo Rechi Vita
     [not found]   ` <1454946096-9752-2-git-send-email-jprvita-6IF/jdPJHihWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-08 22:37     ` Julian Calaby
2016-02-08 22:37       ` Julian Calaby
2016-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 2/9] rfkill: Remove extra blank line João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-08 22:38   ` Julian Calaby
2016-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 3/9] rfkill: Point to the correct deprecated doc location João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-08 22:39   ` Julian Calaby
2016-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 4/9] rfkill: Move "state" sysfs file back to stable João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 5/9] rfkill: Factor rfkill_global_states[].cur assignments João Paulo Rechi Vita
     [not found]   ` <1454946096-9752-6-git-send-email-jprvita-6IF/jdPJHihWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-08 22:40     ` Julian Calaby
2016-02-08 22:40       ` Julian Calaby
2016-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 6/9] rfkill: Add documentation about LED triggers João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 7/9] rfkill: Create "rfkill-airplane_mode" LED trigger João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-18 20:08   ` Johannes Berg
2016-02-22 16:10     ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
     [not found] ` <1454946096-9752-1-git-send-email-jprvita-6IF/jdPJHihWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-08 15:41   ` [PATCH 8/9] rfkill: Userspace control for airplane mode João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-08 15:41     ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-08 16:11     ` Dan Williams
2016-02-08 17:22       ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
     [not found]       ` <1454947887.5325.8.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-10 16:07         ` Johannes Berg
2016-02-10 16:07           ` Johannes Berg
2016-02-10 16:53           ` Dan Williams [this message]
2016-02-10 17:12             ` Johannes Berg
2016-02-16 15:12               ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
     [not found]     ` <1454946096-9752-9-git-send-email-jprvita-6IF/jdPJHihWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-08 16:20       ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-02-08 16:20         ` Marcel Holtmann
2016-02-08 17:18         ` Johannes Berg
2016-02-08 17:22         ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-08 22:53     ` Julian Calaby
     [not found]       ` <CAGRGNgVuwrh5unUoQ0P+ow55ChOQ+qsRRjfD1bb7DC6PcrCO2g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-09 21:35         ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-09 21:35           ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-09 21:36           ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-09 22:01             ` Julian Calaby
2016-02-18 20:12     ` Johannes Berg
2016-02-22 16:11       ` João Paulo Rechi Vita
2016-02-08 15:41 ` [PATCH 9/9] rfkill: Notify userspace of airplane-mode state changes João Paulo Rechi Vita

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