All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Geliang Tang <geliangtang@163.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Bhaktipriya Shridhar <bhaktipriya96@gmail.com>,
	"GeyslanG.Bem@Karyakshetra" <geyslan@gmail.com>,
	Masanari Iida <standby24x7@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	Saurabh Karajgaonkar <skarajga@visteon.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] usb: host: u132-hcd: Remove deprecated create_singlethread_workqueue
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 10:06:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1470125172.30985.4.camel@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160801142005.GB2542@mtj.duckdns.org>

On Mon, 2016-08-01 at 10:20 -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,

> > If any real IO depends on those devices then this is not sufficient and
> > they need some form of guarantee for progress (aka mempool).
> 
> Oliver, Alan, what do you think?  If USB itself can't operate without
> allocating memory during transactions, whatever USB storage drivers

It cannot. The IO must be described to the hardware with a data
structure in memory.

> are doing isn't all that meaningful.  Can we proceed with the
> workqueue patches?  Also, it could be that the only thing GFP_NOIO and
> GFP_ATOMIC are doing is increasing the chance of IO failures under
> memory pressure.  Maybe it'd be a good idea to reconsider the
> approach?

We had actual deadlocks with GFP_KERNEL. It seems to me that the SCSI
layer can deal with IO that cannot be completed due to a lack of memory
at least somewhat, but a deadlock within a driver would obviously be
deadly. So I don't think that mempools would remove the need for
GFP_NOIO as there are places in usbcore we cannot enter the page
laundering path from. They are an additional need.

	Regards
		Oliver

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-02  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-27  9:20 [RFC] usb: host: u132-hcd: Remove deprecated create_singlethread_workqueue Bhaktipriya Shridhar
2016-07-27  9:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2016-07-27 18:00   ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-27 18:54     ` Alan Stern
2016-07-27 19:23       ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-27 20:45         ` Alan Stern
2016-07-29 13:11           ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-01 13:50             ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-01 14:20               ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-01 18:00                 ` Alan Stern
2016-08-01 18:28                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-02  8:06                 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2016-08-02  8:18                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-02 10:03                     ` Oliver Neukum
2016-08-02 11:34                       ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-02 11:44                         ` Oliver Neukum
2016-08-02 12:48                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-08-02 13:29                             ` Oliver Neukum
2016-08-02 19:02                               ` Tejun Heo
2016-08-02 21:26                                 ` Michal Hocko

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=1470125172.30985.4.camel@suse.com \
    --to=oneukum@suse.com \
    --cc=bhaktipriya96@gmail.com \
    --cc=geliangtang@163.com \
    --cc=geyslan@gmail.com \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=hannes@cmpxchg.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-usb@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mgorman@techsingularity.net \
    --cc=mhocko@kernel.org \
    --cc=skarajga@visteon.com \
    --cc=standby24x7@gmail.com \
    --cc=stern@rowland.harvard.edu \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    --cc=vbabka@suse.cz \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.