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From: Daniel Micay <danielmicay@gmail.com>
To: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Jeff Vander Stoep <jeffv@google.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 1/2] security, perf: allow further restriction of perf_event_open
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 09:10:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1470143405.13627.22.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160802130457.GD26514@kernel.org>

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> > So the problem I have with this is that it will completely inhibit
> > development of things like JITs that self-profile to re-compile
> > frequently used code.
> 
> Or reimplement strace with sys_perf_event_open(), speeding it up
> greatly
> by not using ptrace (see 'perf trace', one such attempt), combining it
> with sys_bpf(), which can run unpriviledged as well, provides lots of
> possibilities for efficient tooling that would be greatly stiffled by
> such big hammer restrictions :-(

The usage on Android wouldn't impact strace. It's a debugging tool used
over the debugging shell so it could be taught to toggle on unprivileged
access to perf events as the other tools using the API were.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-02 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-27 14:45 [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 1/2] security, perf: allow further restriction of perf_event_open Jeff Vander Stoep
2016-07-27 14:45 ` Jeff Vander Stoep
2016-07-27 20:43 ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-08-02  9:52 ` [kernel-hardening] " Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-02  9:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-02 13:04   ` [kernel-hardening] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-08-02 13:04     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-08-02 13:10     ` Daniel Micay [this message]
2016-08-02 13:16   ` [kernel-hardening] " Daniel Micay
2016-08-02 19:04   ` Kees Cook
2016-08-02 20:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-02 20:51       ` Kees Cook
2016-08-02 21:06         ` Jeffrey Vander Stoep
2016-08-03  8:28         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-08-03 12:28           ` Daniel Micay
2016-08-03 12:53             ` Daniel Micay
2016-08-03 13:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 14:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 15:42           ` Schaufler, Casey
2016-08-03 17:25         ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-08-03 17:25           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-08-03 18:53           ` Kees Cook
2016-08-03 21:44             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-04  2:50               ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-08-04  2:50                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-08-04  9:11                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-04 15:13                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-08-04 15:13                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-08-04 15:37                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-03 19:36           ` Daniel Micay
2016-08-04 10:28             ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-04 13:45               ` Daniel Micay
2016-08-04 14:11                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-04 15:44                   ` Daniel Micay
2016-08-04 15:55                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-04 16:10                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-04 16:32                       ` Daniel Micay
2016-08-04 17:09                         ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-04 17:36                           ` Daniel Micay
2016-08-02 21:16       ` Jeffrey Vander Stoep
2016-10-17 13:44 ` [kernel-hardening] " Mark Rutland
2016-10-17 14:54   ` Daniel Micay
2016-10-19  9:41     ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-19 15:16       ` Daniel Micay
2016-10-18 20:48   ` Kees Cook
2016-10-18 21:15     ` Daniel Micay
2016-10-19  9:56       ` Mark Rutland
2016-10-19 10:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-19 10:26         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-10-19 10:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-19 15:39           ` Daniel Micay

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