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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Dave Quigley <dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	casey@schaufler-ca.com, viro@ftp.linux.org.uk,
	trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, bfields@fieldses.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/11] Security: Add hook to get full maclabel xattr name
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:07:53 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <147227.75672.qm@web36609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1204245767.2715.43.camel@moss-terrapins.epoch.ncsc.mil>


--- Dave Quigley <dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov> wrote:

> 
> On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:00 -0500, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 07:32:47PM -0500, Dave Quigley wrote:
> > > I can always go with the original hook name of get_security_xattr_name
> > > which turns into a security_get_security_xattr_name call which seems a
> > > bit ludicrous. The only other complaint that I saw from Casey besides
> > > the name of the function was that there could be more than one xattr. If
> > > we want to address that then I need another hook that says give me all
> > > data that the LSM deems important for this file. Which is essentially
> > > the same thing as taking each of the xattr names that the module will
> > > provide, grabbing each of them in turn, and concatenating them together.
> > > For SELinux this is no different than getsecurity with the selinux
> > > suffix. The same goes for SMACK.
> > 
> > What about Casey's suggestion of get_security_blob?  For any reasonable
> > module that just has a single xattr it's trivial and for those that
> > have multiple or a different storage model it might get complicated
> > but that's not our problem for now.
> 
> If this is the method we are going to use then we need a corresponding
> set_security_blob as well.

Not to sound stupid, but why would you need this?

> This seems like a paradigm shift for
> accessing security information in the kernel.

Well, yes, but look at David Howell's file cacheing work
before you take too firm a stand.

> I said to Casey in the
> beginning that I'd be willing to revisit it but that neither he or I
> alone could make the decision. Unless I misunderstood the original
> mandate for security information and that it only applies to how user
> space accesses it.

Sorry, I don't understand how user space and mandates go together here.


Casey Schaufler
casey@schaufler-ca.com

  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-29  2:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-27 22:11 RFC Labeled NFS Initial Code Review David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 01/11] Security: Add hook to get full maclabel xattr name David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 23:42   ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-28  0:12     ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-28  1:07       ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-28 13:43         ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-28 19:23           ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-28 19:30             ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-28 19:59               ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-28 23:48               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-29  0:04                 ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29  0:39                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-29  0:32                     ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29  1:00                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-29  0:42                         ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29  2:07                           ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2008-02-29  1:48                             ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 13:30                         ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-29 14:45                           ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-29  1:47                       ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29  1:33                         ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29  2:15                         ` James Morris
2008-02-29  0:50                     ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29  0:51                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-29  1:00                         ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29  1:55                           ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29  5:04                             ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29 17:46                               ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 18:28                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29 18:52                                   ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 19:50                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29 21:07                                       ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 21:00                                         ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 22:27                                           ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 22:15                                             ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 22:58                                               ` Casey Schaufler
2008-03-01  0:09                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2008-03-01  0:41                                           ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29  1:26                       ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29  5:01                         ` Trond Myklebust
2008-02-29 17:26                           ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29  1:04                   ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29  0:52                     ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29  2:29                       ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29  2:09                         ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29  1:15                   ` James Morris
2008-02-29 13:31                 ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-29 17:52                   ` Casey Schaufler
2008-02-29 21:50   ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 02/11] Security: Add hook to calculate context based on a negative dentry David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 03/11] VFS: Add security label support to *notify David P. Quigley
2008-02-28  1:20   ` James Morris
2008-02-28 16:07     ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-28 23:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-28 23:44     ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29  0:23       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-02-29  0:06         ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29  1:52         ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-29 20:19         ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 04/11] KConfig: Add KConfig entries for SELinux labeled NFS David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 05/11] NFSv4: Add label recommended attribute and NFSv4 flags David P. Quigley
2008-02-28  1:52   ` James Morris
2008-02-28  1:45     ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-28 13:55     ` Stephen Smalley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 06/11] SELinux: Add new labeling type native labels David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 07/11] NFS/SELinux: Add security_label text mount option to nfs and add handling code to the security server David P. Quigley
2008-02-28 14:22   ` Eric Paris
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 08/11] NFS: Introduce lifecycle management for label attribute David P. Quigley
2008-02-28  4:13   ` James Morris
2008-02-28 16:24     ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-28 16:46   ` Dave Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 09/11] NFS: Client implementation of Labeled-NFS David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 10/11] NFS: Extend nfs xattr handlers to accept the security namespace David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 22:11 ` [PATCH 11/11] NFSD: Server implementation of MAC Labeling David P. Quigley
2008-02-28  1:46   ` James Morris
2008-02-28  0:48 ` RFC Labeled NFS Initial Code Review Dave Quigley
2008-02-28  1:23 ` Dave Quigley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-02-27 20:39 David P. Quigley
2008-02-27 20:39 ` [PATCH 01/11] Security: Add hook to get full maclabel xattr name David P. Quigley

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