From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760221AbcHaVr5 (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:47:57 -0400 Received: from gate.crashing.org ([63.228.1.57]:59746 "EHLO gate.crashing.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752273AbcHaVru (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Aug 2016 17:47:50 -0400 Message-ID: <1472680030.2388.95.camel@kernel.crashing.org> Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Fix a race between rwsem and the scheduler From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Oleg Nesterov , Balbir Singh , LKML , Nicholas Piggin Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 07:47:10 +1000 In-Reply-To: <20160831133104.GD10153@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <4050f2ce-1aee-d2aa-39e3-36e995b56252@gmail.com> <20160830121937.GQ10138@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20160830130426.GA17795@redhat.com> <20160830141321.GB2794@worktop> <20160830165746.GA29218@redhat.com> <20160830183416.GV10138@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <1472592498.2388.40.camel@kernel.crashing.org> <20160831133104.GD10153@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.20.5 (3.20.5-1.fc24) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2016-08-31 at 15:31 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 07:28:18AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt > wrote: > > > > > On powerpc we have a sync deep in _switch to achieve that. > > OK, for giggles, could you (or Balbir) check what happens if you take > that sync out? > > There should be enough serialization in the generic code to cover the > case that code mentions. > > ARM64 has a stronger barrier in its context switch code, but that's > because they need to sync against external agents (like their TLB and > cache) and no amount of generic locking is going to cover that. The problem is no amount of testing can tell you it works for sure :-) I would be nervous not having a real full sync in _switch. All we have along the scheduler path is lwsync's and our isync based load construct for spin_lock, I'm not sure what other assumptions we have around that sync in there... Cheers, Ben.