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From: Oliver Neukum <oneukum-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Micky Ching <micky_ching-kXabqFNEczNtrwSWzY7KCg@public.gmane.org>,
	Wei WANG <wei_wang-kXabqFNEczNtrwSWzY7KCg@public.gmane.org>,
	Roger Tseng <rogerable-Rasf1IRRPZFBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Ritesh Raj Sarraf <rrs-7WuBAv+fczCJ8c2fQYRYNw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mmc <linux-mmc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mmc: rtsx_usb_sdmmc: Handle runtime PM while changing led
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:40:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1474364420.4358.21.camel@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1609191348440.1458-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, 2016-09-19 at 14:02 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > We can for sure enable autosuspend for the sdmmc device, although as
> > soon as an SD card will be detected the rtsx driver will increase
> the
> > runtime PM usage count. The count is decreased when the card is
> > removed (or failed to be initialized), thus runtime suspend is
> > prevented as long as there is a functional card inserted.

Testing autosuspend with card readers on usb_storage I saw a uniform
response of reporting a medium change event upon resume.
I am afraid other kinds of readers are not better in that regard.
> 
> Which means that autosuspend matters only when a card isn't present, 
> and the host is polled every second or so to see whether a card has 
> been inserted.
> 
> Under those circumstances you probably don't want to use
> autosuspend.  
> That is, resuming before each poll and suspending afterward may use 
> less energy than staying at full power all the time.

Is that based on concrete figures about power consumption?

And it seems to me that we need a way to indicate that the heuristics
should not be used, but a device immediately suspended. The timer
is sensible only if the next wakeup is unknown.

	Regards
		Oliver



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-09-20  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-17 10:14 [PATCH] mmc: rtsx_usb_sdmmc: Handle runtime PM while changing led Ulf Hansson
     [not found] ` <1474107278-3271-1-git-send-email-ulf.hansson-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-18  2:30   ` Alan Stern
2016-09-19  9:24     ` Ulf Hansson
     [not found]       ` <CAPDyKFpFObRkvUC5kOKznE3FAGL6H_Hufa7ZEFWpmB694AY9ow-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-19 18:02         ` Alan Stern
2016-09-20  9:34           ` Ulf Hansson
     [not found]             ` <CAPDyKFq2Y1vn1OjNJJg7hocbzFo-QUpezLSMWnF_1cSJ9Ot3NQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-20 14:09               ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1609200951500.1459-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-21 10:39                   ` Ulf Hansson
     [not found]                     ` <CAPDyKFqgfhsOdrz5ncTh5Z_OZ6tvnMVoQ_2g7ZyM02aaVzGQWg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-21 14:45                       ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1609211038270.1996-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-22 10:13                           ` Ulf Hansson
     [not found]                             ` <CAPDyKFozTL9h3HXoimHc4X3jeWQtJaedrfExVq1A5g7-JzcNLg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-22 13:56                               ` Alan Stern
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1609191348440.1458-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-20  9:40             ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2016-09-20 14:12               ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1609201009470.1459-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-21  9:50                   ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                     ` <1474451450.2675.13.camel-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-21 14:35                       ` Alan Stern
2016-09-22 13:24                         ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                           ` <1474550656.11364.32.camel-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-22 14:00                             ` Alan Stern

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