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From: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Colin Ian King <colin.king@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: linux.git: printk() problem
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 03:20:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1476354050.2164.7.camel@perches.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161013100438.GH21678@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Thu, 2016-10-13 at 12:04 +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 13-10-16 02:29:46, Joe Perches wrote:
> > On Thu, 2016-10-13 at 08:26 +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > > I think they are not critical and can be fix once somebody notices.
> > 
> >  
> > As do I, but Linus objected to applying a patch when Colin Ian King
> > noticed one.
> > 
> > I think the 250,000 or so uses with newlines are enough of a
> > precedence to keep using newlines everywhere.
> 
> 
> or simply fix missing KERN_CONTs and simply do not add any new missing \n
> 
> > Now we'll have to have patches adding hundreds to thousands of the
> > missing KERN_CONTs for continuation lines that weren't previously a
> > problem in logging output but are now.
> 
> 
> I would be really surprised if we really had that many continuation
> lines. They should be avoided as much as possible. Hundreds of thousands
> just sounds more than over exaggerated...

Hey Michal.

"Hundreds _to_ thousands" of instances.  Not "hundreds _of_ thousands".

> Not requiring \n at the end of strings just makes a lot of sense if we
> have a KERN_CONT with a well defined semantic.

True enough.  And I am not at all arguing against having a
well defined KERN_CONT semantic.

But using KERN_CONT alone is not enough information to be able to
perfectly reassemble message fragments post hoc given multiple
threads possibly interleaving KERN_CONT.

I do think the inconsistency of mixing styles with and without
newlines not particularly good.

cheers, Joe

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-13 10:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-12 13:30 linux.git: printk() problem Tetsuo Handa
2016-10-12 14:35 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-12 16:08   ` Joe Perches
2016-10-13  6:26     ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-13  9:29       ` Joe Perches
2016-10-13 10:04         ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-13 10:20           ` Joe Perches [this message]
2016-10-13 11:06             ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-12 15:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-12 16:16   ` Joe Perches
2016-10-12 16:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-12 18:50       ` [PATCH] acpi_os_vprintf: Use printk_get_level() to avoid unnecessary KERN_CONT Joe Perches
2016-10-13 21:59         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-23  9:22   ` linux.git: printk() problem Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-10-23 18:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-23 19:06       ` Joe Perches
2016-10-23 19:32         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-23 19:46           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-24 11:15             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-10-24 14:08             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-24 14:23               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-24 17:54               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-24 17:55                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-25  1:55                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-25  2:06                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-25  2:22                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-25  4:06                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-25  4:13                           ` Joe Perches
2016-10-25  4:15                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-25  4:44                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-25 14:44                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-11-09 15:47                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-10-25  2:24                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-10-23 20:33           ` Joe Perches
2016-10-23 21:13             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-10-25 14:42       ` Steven Rostedt

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