From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:44:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:44:34 -0500 Received: from pizda.ninka.net ([216.101.162.242]:58252 "EHLO pizda.ninka.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:44:26 -0500 From: "David S. Miller" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14960.54852.630103.360704@pizda.ninka.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 17:43:32 -0800 (PST) To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN In-Reply-To: <3A70D524.11362EFB@transmeta.com> In-Reply-To: <94qcvm$9qp$1@cesium.transmeta.com> <14960.54069.369317.517425@pizda.ninka.net> <3A70D524.11362EFB@transmeta.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 13) "Crater Lake" XEmacs Lucid Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org H. Peter Anvin writes: > Last I communicated with them, I looked for a reference like that in the > standards RFCs so I could quote chapter and verse at the Hotmail people, > but I couldn't find it. RFC793, where is lists the unused flag bits as "reserved". That is pretty clear to me. It just has to say that they are reserved, and that is what it does. > Right, but there is a whole mythos around which version of IOS does what > without breaking something. I can certainly understand that people are > reluctant to upgrade if they don't have to. As far as I understand it, the PIIX stuff doesn't run IOS but rather some other system created for these firewall products. Moot point. I understand that upgrading can be a pain, but I think it is in their best interest to do so (see better internet and "make money" arguments). Later, David S. Miller davem@redhat.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/