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From: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Chien Tin Tung
	<chien.tin.tung-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [rdma-next 01/33] Revert "IB/core: Add flow control to the portmapper netlink calls"
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 08:42:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1501764159.117042.9.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1501762973.117042.7.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 08:22 -0400, Doug Ledford wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 08:10 +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > 
> > Because, I truly believe that they proposed the nasty hack, which
> > doesn't fix the real problem - inability to deal with losses of
> > netlink
> > messages.
> 
> In so much as the iwpmd needs to be modified to do a resync, I agree
> with you.  But, the fix they made caused the system to be "reliable
> enough" that the problem more or less disappeared.  It is true that,
> given enough load, the problem could resurface, but that hasn't
> happened yet in the real world.
> 
> However, iwpmd is part of rdma-core now, so *anyone* can fix it to do
> the resyncs as needed (and I don't know, maybe it does, I just did a
> quick grep for ENOBUFS to see if they capture that error and do a
> resync on it, and saw no hits for that with grep).

And in case this didn't sink in from the above statement, allow me to
make it explicit:

Does it not strike you how much of a failure it was on your part to
submit a kernel patch that breaks iwpmd, code that is now part of rdma-
core, FOR WHICH YOU ARE COMAINTAINER, without the corresponding patches
to rdma-core to fix the real issue?  You don't get to tell Chien to "go
fix his software" because his software is part of rdma-core for which
you are co-maintainer and ultimately you bear responsibility for rdma-
core as a whole whether Chien fixes his stuff or not!  Your job is to
make sure that rdma-core is never broken in the way you were going to
break it.  You had a conflict of interest here between your kernel work
and your user space responsibilities and you did not choose well how to
resolve that conflict.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-03 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-01 12:05 [pull request][rdma-next 00/33] RDMA netlink refactoring and RDMAtool code Leon Romanovsky
     [not found] ` <20170801120536.540-1-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 01/33] Revert "IB/core: Add flow control to the portmapper netlink calls" Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]     ` <20170801120536.540-2-leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 13:38       ` Chien Tin Tung
     [not found]         ` <20170801133832.GA11812-TZeIlv3TuzOfrEmaQUPKxl95YUYmaKo1UNDiOz3kqAs@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 14:10           ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]             ` <20170801141023.GM13672-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 14:18               ` Chien Tin Tung
     [not found]                 ` <20170801141842.GA1808-TZeIlv3TuzOfrEmaQUPKxl95YUYmaKo1UNDiOz3kqAs@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 14:22                   ` Christopher Lameter
2017-08-01 15:13                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 15:15                     ` Chien Tin Tung
     [not found]                       ` <20170801151511.GA13376-TZeIlv3TuzOfrEmaQUPKxl95YUYmaKo1UNDiOz3kqAs@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 15:20                         ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                           ` <1501600807.2475.4.camel-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 16:21                             ` Chien Tin Tung
     [not found]                               ` <20170801162135.GA240-TZeIlv3TuzOfrEmaQUPKxl95YUYmaKo1UNDiOz3kqAs@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 16:55                                 ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                                   ` <1501606508.2475.12.camel-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 17:14                                     ` Chien Tin Tung
     [not found]                                       ` <20170801171454.GA8484-TZeIlv3TuzOfrEmaQUPKxl95YUYmaKo1UNDiOz3kqAs@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 17:28                                         ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                                           ` <1501608534.2475.14.camel-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 17:52                                             ` Chien Tin Tung
     [not found]                                               ` <20170801175236.GA14048-TZeIlv3TuzOfrEmaQUPKxl95YUYmaKo1UNDiOz3kqAs@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 17:58                                                 ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                                                   ` <1501610305.2475.16.camel-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 18:20                                                     ` Chien Tin Tung
2017-08-01 19:58                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                           ` <20170801195840.GC31205-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 20:38                             ` Chien Tin Tung
     [not found]                               ` <20170801203815.GA4620-TZeIlv3TuzOfrEmaQUPKxl95YUYmaKo1UNDiOz3kqAs@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-01 23:17                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-08-02  3:44                             ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                               ` <20170802034438.GV13672-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-02 15:58                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                   ` <20170802155856.GA21208-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-02 16:29                                     ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                                       ` <20170802162938.GC13672-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-02 16:45                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                           ` <20170802164553.GA31901-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-02 16:51                                             ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                                               ` <1501692660.2437.4.camel-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-02 17:08                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                   ` <20170802170823.GA32513-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-02 17:11                                                     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                                                       ` <1501693892.2437.6.camel-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-02 17:20                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-08-02 17:57               ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                 ` <1501696661.109555.6.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-02 18:54                   ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                     ` <20170802185405.GE13672-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-03  0:19                       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                         ` <1501719575.117042.4.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-03  5:10                           ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                             ` <20170803051032.GF13672-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-03 12:22                               ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                 ` <1501762973.117042.7.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-03 12:42                                   ` Doug Ledford [this message]
     [not found]                                     ` <1501764159.117042.9.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-06  7:47                                       ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                                         ` <20170806074751.GA3636-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-06 19:00                                           ` Bart Van Assche
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 02/33] RDMA/netlink: Remove netlink clients infrastructure Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 03/33] RDMA/netlink: Remove redundant owner option for netlink callbacks Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 04/33] RDMA/netlink: Avoid double pass for RDMA netlink messages Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 05/33] RDMA/iwcm: Remove useless check of nelink client validity Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 06/33] RDMA/iwcm: Remove extra EXPORT_SYMBOLS Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 07/33] RDMA/netlink: Add flag to consolidate common handing Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 08/33] RDMA/netlink: Simplify the put_msg and put_attr Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 09/33] RDMA/netlink: Rename and remove redundant parameter from ibnl_unicast Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 10/33] RDMA/netlink: Rename and remove redundant parameter from ibnl_multicast Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 11/33] RDMA/netlink: Simplify and rename ibnl_chk_listeners Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 12/33] RDMA/netlink: Rename netlink callback struct Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 13/33] RDMA/core: Add iterator over ib_devices Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 14/33] RDMA/core: Add and expose static device index Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 15/33] RDMA/netlink: Add and implement doit netlink callback Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 16/33] RDMA/netlink: Reduce indirection access to cb_table Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 17/33] RDMA/netlink: Convert LS to doit callback Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 18/33] RDMA/netlink: Update copyright Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 19/33] RDMA/netlink: Add netlink device definitions to UAPI Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 20/33] RDMA/netlink: Add nldev initialization flows Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 21/33] RDMA/netlink: Implement nldev device dumpit calback Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 22/33] RDMA/netlink: Add nldev device doit implementation Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 23/33] RDMA/netlink: Add nldev port dumpit implementation Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 24/33] RDMA/netlink: Implement nldev port doit callback Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 25/33] RDMA/netlink: Expose device and port capability masks Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 26/33] RDMA: Simplify get firmware interface Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 27/33] RDMA/netlink: Export FW version Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 28/33] RDMA/netlink: Export node_guid and sys_image_guid Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 29/33] RDMA/netlink: Advertise IB subnet prefix Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 30/33] RDMA/netink: Export lids and sm_lids Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 31/33] RDMA/netlink: Export LID mask control (LMC) Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 32/33] RDMA/netlink: Provide port state and physical link state Leon Romanovsky
2017-08-01 12:05   ` [rdma-next 33/33] RDMA/netlink: Export node_type Leon Romanovsky

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