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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@trippelsdorf.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
Subject: Re: Current mainline git (24e700e291d52bd2) hangs when building e.g. perf
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 11:08:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1505142497.21121.36.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrU5iZo5_7+cn=NLYws2r8nvu7huxBQOJcMvanGKsFs7+A@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 2017-09-10 at 18:46 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> 
> No, nothing stops the problematic speculative load.  Here's the
> issue.
> One CPU removes a reference to a page table from a higher-level page
> table, flushes, and then frees the page table.  Then it re-allocates
> it and writes something unrelated there.  Another CPU that has CR3
> pointing to the page hierarchy in question could have a reference to
> the freed table in its paging structure cache.  Even if it's
> guaranteed to not try to access the addresses in question (because
> they're user addresses and the other CPU is in kernel mode, etc), but
> there is never a guarantee that the CPU doesn't randomly try to fill
> its TLB for the affected addresses.  This results in invalid PTEs in
> the TLB, possible accesses using bogus memory types, and maybe even
> reads from IO space.

Good point, I had forgotten all about memory accesses
that do not originate with software behavior.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-11 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-05  7:27 Current mainline git (24e700e291d52bd2) hangs when building e.g. perf Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-05  8:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05  9:55   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-06 12:52     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-06 13:15       ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-07  6:28         ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-08  5:35           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-08  6:26             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-09-08  8:05               ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-08  9:16                 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-08  9:48                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-08 10:35                     ` Ingo Molnar
2017-09-08 10:39                       ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-08 11:30                         ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-08 16:12                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-08 17:16                             ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-08 21:47                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-08 21:56                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-08 23:07                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-08 23:23                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-09  0:00                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-09  1:05                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-09  1:39                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-09 17:49                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-09 18:02                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-09  6:39                                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-09 10:18                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-09 11:07                                       ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-09 13:07                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-09 13:37                                           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-09 13:39                                             ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-09 14:07                                               ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-09 14:20                                                 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-09 14:33                                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-09 14:43                                                     ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-09 16:32                                                       ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-09 17:05                                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-09 17:23                                                           ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-09 17:36                                                             ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-09 18:14                                                               ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-09 18:26                                                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-09 18:46                                                                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-09 19:11                                                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-09 19:19                                                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-09 18:26                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-09 18:29                                                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-09 18:47                                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-09 19:09                                                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-09 19:21                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-09 19:28                                                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-09 19:37                                                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2017-09-10  4:42                                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-10 20:22                                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-10 20:25                                                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-17 17:04                                                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2017-09-11  1:12                                                                           ` Rik van Riel
2017-09-11  1:46                                                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-09-11 15:08                                                                               ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2017-09-12  7:14                                                                   ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-09  8:13                                 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-09-08 14:51                   ` Borislav Petkov

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