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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.com>,
	Matt Benjamin <mbenjami@redhat.com>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	"J . Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Steve Dickson <SteveD@RedHat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH nfs-utils v3 00/14] add NFS over AF_VSOCK support
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 07:07:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1505473626.4781.9.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170914173730.GD4673@fieldses.org>

On Thu, 2017-09-14 at 13:37 -0400, J . Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:55:51AM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 09/14/2017 11:39 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
> > > Hello
> > > 
> > > On 09/13/2017 06:26 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > v3:
> > > >  * Documented vsock syntax in exports.man, nfs.man, and nfsd.man
> > > >  * Added clientaddr autodetection in mount.nfs(8)
> > > >  * Replaced #ifdefs with a single vsock.h header file
> > > >  * Tested nfsd serving both IPv4 and vsock at the same time
> > > 
> > > Just curious as to the status of the kernel patches... Are
> > > they slated for any particular release?
> > 
> > Maybe I should have read the thread before replying ;-) 
> > 
> > I now see the status of the patches... not good!  8-)
> 
> To be specific, the code itself is probably fine, it's just that nobody
> on the NFS side seems convinced that NFS/VSOCK is necessary.
> 

...and to be even more clear, the problem you've outlined (having a zero
config network between an HV and guest) is a valid one. The issue here
is that the solution in these patches is horribly invasive and will
create an ongoing maintenance burden.

What would be much cleaner (IMNSHO) is a new type of virtual network
interface driver that has similar communication characteristics (only
allowing HV<->guest communication) and that autoconfigures itself when
plugged in (or only does so with minimal setup).

Then you could achieve the same result without having to completely
rework all of this code. That's also something potentially backportable
to earlier kernels, which is a nice bonus.
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-15 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-13 10:26 [PATCH nfs-utils v3 00/14] add NFS over AF_VSOCK support Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 01/14] mount: don't use IPPROTO_UDP for address resolution Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 02/14] nfs-utils: add vsock.h Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 03/14] nfs-utils: add AF_VSOCK support to sockaddr.h Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 04/14] mount: present AF_VSOCK addresses Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 05/14] mount: accept AF_VSOCK in nfs_verify_family() Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 06/14] mount: generate AF_VSOCK clientaddr Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 07/14] getport: recognize "vsock" netid Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 08/14] mount: AF_VSOCK address parsing Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 09/14] exportfs: introduce host_freeaddrinfo() Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 10/14] exportfs: add AF_VSOCK address parsing and printing Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 11/14] exportfs: add AF_VSOCK support to set_addrlist() Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 12/14] exportfs: add support for "vsock:" exports(5) syntax Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 13/14] nfsd: add --vsock (-v) option to nfsd Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 10:26 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 14/14] tests: add "vsock:" exports(5) test case Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 16:21 ` [PATCH nfs-utils v3 00/14] add NFS over AF_VSOCK support Christoph Hellwig
2017-09-13 18:18   ` [nfsv4] " David Noveck
2017-09-13 18:21     ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-15 11:52       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-13 22:39 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-14 15:39 ` Steve Dickson
2017-09-14 15:55   ` Steve Dickson
2017-09-14 17:37     ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 11:07       ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2017-09-15 15:17         ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 23:29           ` NeilBrown
2017-09-16 14:55             ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 13:12       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-15 13:31         ` J . Bruce Fields
2017-09-15 13:59           ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-15 16:42             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-16 15:55               ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-18 18:09                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-19  9:31                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-19 14:35                     ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-19 15:10                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-19 15:48                         ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-19 16:44                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-19 17:24                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-21 17:00                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-22  9:55                                 ` Steven Whitehouse
2017-09-22 11:32                                   ` Jeff Layton
2017-09-22 12:08                                     ` Matt Benjamin
2017-09-22 12:26                                       ` Jeff Layton
2017-09-22 15:28                                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-22 16:23                                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 18:31                                             ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-25  8:14                                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-25 10:31                                                 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-22 11:43                                   ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-22 11:55                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 12:00                                       ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-22 12:10                                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 19:14                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-25  8:30                                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-26  2:08                                       ` NeilBrown
2017-09-26  3:40                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-26 10:56                                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-26 11:07                                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-26 18:32                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-27  0:45                                             ` NeilBrown
2017-09-27 13:05                                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-27 22:21                                                 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-28 10:44                                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-27 13:35                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-27 22:25                                                 ` NeilBrown
2017-09-26 13:39                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-26 13:42                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-27 12:22                                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-27 13:46                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 10:34                                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-19 17:37                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-19 19:56                             ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-19 20:42                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-19 21:09                                 ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-20 13:16                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-20 14:40                                     ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-20 14:45                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-20 14:59                                         ` Chuck Lever
2017-09-20 15:25                                           ` Frank Filz
2017-09-20 18:17                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2017-09-20 18:34                                               ` bfields
2017-09-20 18:38                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-09-21 16:20                                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-20 14:58                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-20 16:39                                       ` J. Bruce Fields

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