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From: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] IB/srpt: Change default behavior from using SRQ to not using SRQ
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 11:13:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1507648402.46071.53.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171010150018.GC2106-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, 2017-10-10 at 18:00 +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 10:34:19AM -0400, Doug Ledford wrote:
> > On 10/10/2017 12:14 AM, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > 
> Doug,
> But my question was "when" and not "how". When should I set this
> parameter to true?

Whenever you want.  When do you set the maximum TCP window size to 4MB?
 If you have an issue with things being one way, you try another. 
Things like this are system specific and often there is no universal
answer, especially since the answer here could very easily depend on
things like how many targets you are connecting to, how fast those
targets are, etc.

> > 
> > > In the commit message, you mentioned disadvantages of using SRQ
> > > is a
> > > default and among them - locks contention, which can be changed
> > > in the
> > > future. Won't it mean that users stuck with current default,
> > > because
> > > change of default will "break" their scripts?
> > 
> > No, it won't.  If you change the default, you don't remove the
> > variable,
> > you just change what its setting is.  Then existing modprobe.d
> > files
> > become redundant, but nothing breaks.  People that don't want the
> > new
> > setting add a new file to the modprobe.d directory to change the
> > option.
> 
> Not accurate, now I won't set any parameter because I'm relying on
> the
> fact that the default is without SRQ. Once the default will be
> changed,
> it will break my assumption.

So?  Your assumptions are never a reason to prevent ongoing
development.  By this argument, we would never have been able to turn
on SCSI Multi-queue by default because when it was first added to the
kernel it was off by default and people might have made an assumption
that we would later break when we turned it on by default.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-10 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-06 21:42 [PATCH 0/7] SRP patches for kernel v4.15 Bart Van Assche
     [not found] ` <20171006214243.11296-1-bart.vanassche-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-06 21:42   ` [PATCH 1/7] IB/srpt: Limit the send and receive queue sizes to what the HCA supports Bart Van Assche
     [not found]     ` <20171006214243.11296-2-bart.vanassche-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-11 12:31       ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-10-06 21:42   ` [PATCH 2/7] IB/srpt: Cache global L_Key Bart Van Assche
     [not found]     ` <20171006214243.11296-3-bart.vanassche-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-08  9:01       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]         ` <20171008090107.GA17153-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-09 16:57           ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-06 21:42   ` [PATCH 3/7] IB/srpt: Change default behavior from using SRQ to not using SRQ Bart Van Assche
     [not found]     ` <20171006214243.11296-4-bart.vanassche-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-08 10:03       ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]         ` <20171008100317.GR25829-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-09 16:56           ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]             ` <1507568205.46071.46.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-09 17:01               ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                 ` <1507568492.2674.11.camel-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-09 17:12                   ` Doug Ledford
2017-10-10  4:14                   ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                     ` <20171010041423.GJ1252-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 14:34                       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                         ` <9443ec1f-0acd-9fa3-4621-a29085d2c606-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 15:00                           ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                             ` <20171010150018.GC2106-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 15:13                               ` Doug Ledford [this message]
     [not found]                                 ` <1507648402.46071.53.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 15:44                                   ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                                     ` <20171010154439.GE2106-U/DQcQFIOTAAJjI8aNfphQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 16:04                                       ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                                         ` <1507651473.2815.20.camel-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 17:04                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20171010170429.GA21288-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 17:10                                               ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                                                 ` <1507655454.2815.43.camel-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-10 18:01                                                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-10-10 16:11                                       ` Doug Ledford
2017-10-06 21:42   ` [PATCH 5/7] IB/srp: Remove second argument of srp_destroy_qp() Bart Van Assche
     [not found]     ` <20171006214243.11296-6-bart.vanassche-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-11 12:36       ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-10-06 21:42   ` [PATCH 6/7] IB/srp: Cache global rkey Bart Van Assche
2017-10-06 21:42   ` [PATCH 7/7] IB/srp: Make CM timeout dependent on subnet timeout Bart Van Assche
     [not found]     ` <20171006214243.11296-8-bart.vanassche-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-11 12:38       ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-10-06 21:42 ` [PATCH 4/7] IB/srp: Avoid a cable pull can trigger a kernel crash Bart Van Assche
     [not found]   ` <20171006214243.11296-5-bart.vanassche-Sjgp3cTcYWE@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-08 13:22     ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-10-08 13:22       ` Leon Romanovsky
2017-10-09 17:02       ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-11 12:36     ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-10-11 12:36       ` Sagi Grimberg

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