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From: Pantelis Antoniou <pantelis.antoniou@konsulko.com>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Alan Tull <atull@kernel.org>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	 linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	linux-fpga@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/5] of/fdt: only store the device node basename in full_name
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:53:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1508341985.25643.12.camel@hp800z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqKR3Jg+tgZr4xGPtcWnZW7ng741YjuyUFaS2SXKXbxGtg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2017-10-18 at 10:44 -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Alan Tull <atull@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 10/17/17 14:46, Rob Herring wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Alan Tull <atull@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Rob,
> >>>>
> >>>>> With dependencies on a statically allocated full path name converted to
> >>>>> use %pOF format specifier, we can store just the basename of node, and
> >>>>> the unflattening of the FDT can be simplified.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This commit will affect the remaining users of full_name. After
> >>>>> analyzing these users, the remaining cases should only change some print
> >>>>> messages. The main users of full_name are providing a name for struct
> >>>>> resource. The resource names shouldn't be important other than providing
> >>>>> /proc/iomem names.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We no longer distinguish between pre and post 0x10 dtb formats as either
> >>>>> a full path or basename will work. However, less than 0x10 formats have
> >>>>> been broken since the conversion to use libfdt (and no one has cared).
> >>>>> The conversion of the unflattening code to be non-recursive also broke
> >>>>> pre 0x10 formats as the populate_node function would return 0 in that
> >>>>> case.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Signed-off-by: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> v2:
> >>>>> - rebase to linux-next
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  drivers/of/fdt.c | 69 +++++++++-----------------------------------------------
> >>>>>  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 58 deletions(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> I've just updated to the latest next branch and am finding problems
> >>>> applying overlays.   Reverting this commit alleviates things.  The
> >>>> errors I get are:
> >>>>
> >>>> [   88.498704] OF: overlay: Failed to apply prop @/__symbols__/clk_0
> >>>> [   88.513447] OF: overlay: apply failed '/__symbols__'
> >>>> [   88.518423] create_overlay: Failed to create overlay (err=-12)
> >>>
> >>> Frank's series with overlay updates should fix this.
> >>
> >> Yes, it does:
> >>
> >>   [PATCH v3 11/12] of: overlay: remove a dependency on device node full_name
> >
> > Thanks for the fast response.  I fetched the dt/next branch to test
> > this but there are sufficient changes that Pantelis' "OF: DT-Overlay
> > configfs interface (v7)" is broken now.  I've been adding that
> > downstream since 4.4.  We're using it as an interface for applying
> > overlays to program FPGAs.  If we fix it again, is there any chance
> > that can go upstream now?
> 
> With a drive-by posting once every few years, no.
> 

I take offense to that. There's nothing changed in the patch for years.
Reposting the same patch without changes would achieve nothing.

> The issue remains that the kernel is not really setup to deal with any
> random property or node to be changed at any point in run-time. I
> think there needs to be some restrictions around what the overlays can
> touch. We can't have it be wide open and then lock things down later
> and break users. One example of what you could do is you can only add
> sub-trees to whitelisted nodes. That's probably acceptable for your
> usecase.
> 

Defining what can and what cannot be changed is not as trivial as a
list of white-listed nodes.

In some cases there is a whole node hierarchy being inserted (like in
a FPGA). In others, it's merely changing a status property to "okay" and
a few device parameters.

The real issue is that the kernel has no way to verify that a given
device tree, either at boot time or at overlay application time, is
correct.

When the tree is wrong at boot-time you'll hang (if you're lucky).
If the tree is wrong at run-time you'll get some into some unidentified
funky state.

Finally what is, and what is not 'correct' is not for the kernel to
decide arbitrarily, it's a matter of policy, different for each
use-case. 

> Rob

Regards

-- Pantelis

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-18 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-21 15:16 [PATCH v2 0/5] Removing full paths from DT full_name Rob Herring
2017-08-21 15:16 ` Rob Herring
2017-08-21 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] powerpc: Convert to using %pOF instead of full_name Rob Herring
2017-08-24 12:37   ` [v2,1/5] " Michael Ellerman
2017-08-24 12:37     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-21 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] powerpc: pseries: vio: match parent nodes with of_find_node_by_path Rob Herring
2017-08-22  5:12   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-22  5:12     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-24 18:08     ` Rob Herring
2017-08-24 18:08       ` Rob Herring
2017-08-25  0:10       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-25  0:10         ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-21 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] powerpc: pseries: remove dlpar_attach_node dependency on full path Rob Herring
2017-08-24 12:37   ` [v2, " Michael Ellerman
2017-08-21 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] powerpc: pseries: only store the device node basename in full_name Rob Herring
2017-10-03  9:26   ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-03  9:26     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-03 18:44     ` Rob Herring
2017-10-04 12:37       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-04 12:37         ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-21 15:16 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] of/fdt: " Rob Herring
2017-10-17 21:32   ` Alan Tull
2017-10-17 21:32     ` Alan Tull
2017-10-17 21:46     ` Rob Herring
2017-10-17 23:51       ` Frank Rowand
2017-10-17 23:51         ` Frank Rowand
2017-10-18 15:12         ` Alan Tull
2017-10-18 15:12           ` Alan Tull
2017-10-18 15:44           ` Rob Herring
2017-10-18 15:53             ` Pantelis Antoniou [this message]
2017-10-18 18:30               ` Rob Herring
2017-10-18 21:46                 ` Frank Rowand
2017-10-19  8:41                   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-10-19  8:41                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-10-19  8:41                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-10-19  8:51                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-10-19  8:51                   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-10-19  8:51                   ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-10-19 20:06                   ` Moritz Fischer
2017-10-19 21:46                     ` Frank Rowand
2017-10-20  8:06                       ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-10-20  8:06                         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-10-20  8:06                         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2017-10-20 14:59                         ` Rob Herring
2017-10-18 18:39               ` Alan Tull
2017-10-18 18:39                 ` Alan Tull
2017-10-18 21:40                 ` Frank Rowand
2017-10-18 21:40                   ` Frank Rowand
2017-11-28 13:13   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-11-28 13:13     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-11-28 13:26     ` Rob Herring
2017-11-28 13:26       ` Rob Herring

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