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From: Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>
To: Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho <tuliom@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	 Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: stewart@linux.vnet.ibm.com, cyrilbur@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] powerpc/powernv: Enable TM without suspend if possible
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 13:47:40 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1508467660.6188.17.camel@neuling.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8760bbb6su.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, 2017-10-19 at 11:34 -0200, Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho wrote:
> Forwarding some comments from Adhemerval sent to libc-alpha [1]...
>=20
> Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org> writes:
> > Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> writes:
> >=20
> > > On 10/12/2017 12:17 PM, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> > > > +	pr_info("Enabling TM (Transactional Memory) with Suspend
> > > > Disabled\n");
> > > > +	cur_cpu_spec->cpu_features |=3D CPU_FTR_TM;
> > > > +	cur_cpu_spec->cpu_user_features2 |=3D
> > > > PPC_FEATURE2_HTM_NO_SUSPEND;
> > > > +	tm_suspend_disabled =3D true;
> > >=20
> > > This doesn't look right because if suspend is not available, you need=
 to=C2=A0
> > > clear the original PPC_FEATURE2_HTM flag because the semantics are no=
t=C2=A0
> > > right, so that applications can use fallback code.=C2=A0=C2=A0Otherwi=
se,=C2=A0
> > > applications may incorrectly select the HTM code and break if running=
 on=C2=A0
> > > a system which supports HTM, but without the suspend state.
> > >=20
> > > The new flag should say that HTM is supported, but without the suspen=
d=C2=A0
> > > state, and it should be always set if PPC_FEATURE2_HTM is set.
> >=20
> > Will it also change TEXARS with the abort information?
>=20
> It should, with a permanent error cause so that old applications entering
> suspended state can adopt another technique.
> Michael, could you clarify if this is indeed happening, please?

It will.

If we hit a tsuspend and we are in this mode, the hardware will abort us an=
d set
the Failure Persistent bit (unless there is some other exception pending at=
 the
same time which causes the abort).

Mikey

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-20  2:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-12 10:17 [PATCH 1/4] powerpc/tm: Add commandline option to disable hardware transactional memory Michael Ellerman
2017-10-12 10:17 ` [PATCH 2/4] powerpc: Add PPC_FEATURE2_HTM_NO_SUSPEND Michael Ellerman
2017-10-12 10:17 ` [PATCH 3/4] powerpc/powernv: Enable TM without suspend if possible Michael Ellerman
2017-10-19 10:07   ` Florian Weimer
2017-10-19 12:04     ` Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho
2017-10-19 12:45       ` Florian Weimer
2017-10-19 13:34     ` Tulio Magno Quites Machado Filho
2017-10-19 15:13       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-10-22  9:59         ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-20  2:47       ` Michael Neuling [this message]
2017-10-22  9:48       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-22  9:54     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-12 10:17 ` [PATCH 4/4] powerpc/tm: P9 disable transactionally suspended sigcontexts Michael Ellerman
2017-10-12 11:58 ` [PATCH 5/4] KVM: PPC: Tie KVM_CAP_PPC_HTM to the user-visible TM feature Michael Ellerman
2017-10-24  8:08   ` [5/4] " Michael Ellerman
2017-10-20 11:45 ` [PATCH 1/4] powerpc/tm: Add commandline option to disable hardware transactional memory Breno Leitao
2017-10-20 12:58   ` David Laight
2017-10-21  1:00     ` Michael Neuling
2017-10-23  9:01       ` David Laight
2017-10-23  9:15         ` Michael Neuling
2017-10-21  0:58   ` Michael Neuling
2017-10-23 12:56     ` Breno Leitao
2017-10-24  8:12       ` Michael Ellerman
2017-10-24  8:08 ` [1/4] " Michael Ellerman

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