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From: Mike Galbraith <mgalbraith@suse.de>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Ilsche <thomas.ilsche@tu-dresden.de>,
	Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 0/6] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2018 14:40:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1520516417.7807.88.camel@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0gCi7bLL_r45qmoOKwh_dWF_RVs0U5UPe3qY45GbvtK9w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2018-03-08 at 12:10 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Mike Galbraith <mgalbraith@suse.de> wrote:
>                               1     2     3
> > 4.16.0.g1b88acc-master     6.95  7.03  6.91 (virgin)
> > 4.16.0.g1b88acc-master     7.20  7.25  7.26 (+v2)
> > 4.16.0.g1b88acc-master     6.90  7.06  6.95 (+local)
> >
> > Why would v2 charge the light firefox load a small but consistent fee?
> 
> Two effects may come into play here I think.
> 
> One is that allowing the tick to run biases the menu governor's
> predictions towards the lower end, so we may use shallow states more
> as a result then (Peter was talking about that).

Hm, I'd expect that to show up in +local as well then, as it keeps the
tick running when avg_idle < sched_migration_cost (convenient magic
number), but the firefox load runs at the same wattage as virgin.  I'm
also doing this...

--- a/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c
+++ b/drivers/cpuidle/governors/menu.c
@@ -335,7 +335,7 @@ static int menu_select(struct cpuidle_dr
                 * C1's exit latency exceeds the user configured limit.
                 */
                polling_threshold = max_t(unsigned int, 20, s->target_residency);
-               if (data->next_timer_us > polling_threshold &&
+               if (expected_interval > polling_threshold &&
                    latency_req > s->exit_latency && !s->disabled &&
                    !dev->states_usage[1].disable)
                        first_idx = 1;

...to help out high frequency cross core throughput, but the firefox
load apparently doesn't tickle that, as significant polling would
surely show in the wattage.

	-Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-08 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-06  8:57 [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 0/6] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-06  9:02 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 1/6] time: tick-sched: Reorganize idle tick management code Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-07 23:18   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-03-08  9:22     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-08 15:14       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-03-08 16:34         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-08 17:00           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-03-06  9:02 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 2/6] sched: idle: Do not stop the tick upfront in the idle loop Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-07 23:39   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-03-08  9:05     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-06  9:03 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 3/6] sched: idle: Do not stop the tick before cpuidle_idle_call() Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-06  9:05 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 4/6] cpuidle: Return nohz hint from cpuidle_select() Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-06  9:28   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-06 10:06   ` [Update][RFC/RFT][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-06  9:10 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 5/6] sched: idle: Select idle state before stopping the tick Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-06  9:10 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 6/6] time: tick-sched: Avoid running the same code twice in a row Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-08 10:31 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 0/6] sched/cpuidle: Idle loop rework Mike Galbraith
2018-03-08 11:10   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-08 13:40     ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2018-03-09  9:58       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-03-07 17:04 Doug Smythies
2018-03-07 22:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-08  1:28 ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-08 15:18 ` Doug Smythies
2018-03-08 16:16   ` Rik van Riel
2018-03-08 16:36     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-03-08 16:37   ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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